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    Re: Week 10: UNT (11/4) HOMECOMING

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    I certainly think he could handle it as well or better than the guy doing it now. It ain’t brain surgery.
    Wow! now there's a ringing endorsement...

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    Re: Week 10: UNT (11/4) HOMECOMING

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Dawg View Post
    I dont think I felt this bad overall even during 2013. I mean, don't get me wrong, it was depressing. But I dont think I was indifferent. I think it's clearer now that there are intentional choices being made (who to start, which plays to run, what style of play) that are affecting us, whereas with 2013 there were other, more standard reasons for sucking.
    Exactly

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    Re: Week 10: UNT (11/4) HOMECOMING

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Dawg View Post
    I dont think I felt this bad overall even during 2013. I mean, don't get me wrong, it was depressing. But I dont think I was indifferent. I think it's clearer now that there are intentional choices being made (who to start, which plays to run, what style of play) that are affecting us, whereas with 2013 there were other, more standard reasons for sucking.
    Yes. We have been coached out of a 7-1 record, with by our standards a weak team, and into a 4-4 crowd killing, crap fest. This team isn’t anywhere near where the past 3 have been, but I had hoped they would grow. Even without growing they had USC, UAB, and USM beat and the play calling etc finished them off. You can’t take an average talented team and hamstring them with sh@tty play calling and bad management.

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    Re: Week 10: UNT (11/4) HOMECOMING

    Quote Originally Posted by DallasDog View Post
    You can’t take an average talented team and hamstring them with sh@tty play calling and bad management.
    Well, you can, cause we have. However, it usually is t conducive to winning or keeping your job. 😉

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    Re: Week 10: UNT (11/4) HOMECOMING

    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    Well, you can, cause we have. However, it usually is t conducive to winning or keeping your job. ��
    Winning no, keeping your job....... I think we have proven we can keep some people around way past the winning stage over the years

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    Re: Week 10: UNT (11/4) HOMECOMING

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Wow! now there's a ringing endorsement...
    ROTFLMAO!! Sorry D80, no offense intended.

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    Re: Week 10: UNT (11/4) HOMECOMING

    Quote Originally Posted by DallasDog View Post
    Winning no, keeping your job....... I think we have proven we can keep some people around way past the winning stage over the years

    Yeah, sorry, no sarcasm icon. “Usually” is the operative word in my post.

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    Re: Week 10: UNT (11/4) HOMECOMING

    You are good, I got it. Just wanted to pile on my frustration at our lack of common business sense when it comes to athletic.

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    Re: Week 10: UNT (11/4) HOMECOMING

    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    I guess it’s just easier for me to notice this major issue from my seat on the 40 than it is from the booth, sideline, or EVERY FRICKIN FILM SESSION!
    So, from your seat on the 40, what is the blocking scheme on the delayed handoff? What play should you call when your o-line consistently whiffs on their blocks? It doesn't matter what play is called if the players on the field don't execute their jobs.

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    Re: Week 10: UNT (11/4) HOMECOMING

    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2180 View Post
    So, from your seat on the 40, what is the blocking scheme on the delayed handoff? What play should you call when your o-line consistently whiffs on their blocks? It doesn't matter what play is called if the players on the field don't execute their jobs.
    That's a silly thing to say. The play you call matters enormously. You have to call plays that maximize your team's strengths and expose the other team's weaknesses. For instance, if the other team's defense is killing you with a pass rush, you off set the pass rush with a variety of screen passes, slants, shovel passes, etc....You CAN usually do this regardless of how poorly your OL is playing.

    One of the problems with our run game is that our OL is always in an upright position (pass protection style) when the ball is snapped. Because our OL is standing upright, they can't "fire off the line" like a traditional OL in a run game, and they can't get leverage on their opponent in a man to man blocking scenario. That's why 75% of the running plays we call look like some kind of delayed "draw" play.

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    Re: Week 10: UNT (11/4) HOMECOMING

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    That's a silly thing to say. The play you call matters enormously. You have to call plays that maximize your team's strengths and expose the other team's weaknesses. For instance, if the other team's defense is killing you with a pass rush, you off set the pass rush with a variety of screen passes, slants, shovel passes, etc....You CAN usually do this regardless of how poorly your OL is playing.

    One of the problems with our run game is that our OL is always in an upright position (pass protection style) when the ball is snapped. Because our OL is standing upright, they can't "fire off the line" like a traditional OL in a run game, and they can't get leverage on their opponent in a man to man blocking scenario. That's why 75% of the running plays we call look like some kind of delayed "draw" play.
    Sorry HD. The bolded statement is silly or complete BS. If your employees don't execute their job are you going to be successful although you have an excellent business / sales plan?

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    Re: Week 10: UNT (11/4) HOMECOMING

    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2180 View Post
    Sorry HD. The bolded statement is silly or complete BS. If your employees don't execute their job are you going to be successful although you have an excellent business / sales plan?
    Happens all the time. I would love to tell you everything is always perfect at work, but it rarely is. Likewise, we have to figure out a way to get it done. Same for LA Tech.

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    Re: Week 10: UNT (11/4) HOMECOMING

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    Happens all the time. I would love to tell you everything is always perfect at work, but it rarely is. Likewise, we have to figure out a way to get it done. Same for LA Tech.
    I agree, things aren't always perfect at work or coaching. Holtz and staff work long hours trying to figure out a way to get it done. I can assure you, they are more frustrated about the lack of the Dawg's performance than any fan. We have a lot of young players on the field and some injuries as well.

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    Re: Week 10: UNT (11/4) HOMECOMING

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    Happens all the time. I would love to tell you everything is always perfect at work, but it rarely is. Likewise, we have to figure out a way to get it done. Same for LA Tech.
    What do you do if your top 10 salesmen retire, the next in line are not experienced and 4 are out due to health issues, and you can't step in and make the sale for them? All you can do is suggest a strategy.

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    Re: Week 10: UNT (11/4) HOMECOMING

    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2180 View Post
    What do you do if your top 10 salesmen retire, the next in line are not experienced and 4 are out due to health issues, and you can't step in and make the sale for them? All you can do is suggest a strategy.
    Doesn't matter, that is the hand you are dealt, that is when you "press" some people into service that you thought or they themselves thought they were not ready. Pull up some interns if you need to (pull the red shirts), do what you need to do.

    That is where our next leader is going to come from obviously, it will be an underclassman that steps up and makes it happen

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