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    Re: Start Westin Elliot Now!

    Firing Baker would be nice. Do we ever play freaking defense

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    Re: Start Westin Elliot Now!

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    I think I'll blame Holtz...

    Latech 3-G at Nt07 Timeout LATECH, clock 00:46.
    Latech 3-G at Nt07 Smith, J'Mar rush for 7 yards to the NT0, TOUCHDOWN, clock 00:39.
    BARNES, J. kick attempt good.
    LATECH 17, North Texas 7
    Drive: 9 plays, 80 yards, TOP 02:20
    BARNES, J. kickoff 65 yards to the NT0, touchback.
    Nt 1-10 at Nt25 NORTH TEXAS drive start at 00:39.
    Nt 1-10 at Nt25 FINE, Mason pass complete to GUYTON, Jalen for 6 yards to the NT31, out-of-bounds.
    Nt 2-4 at Nt31 FINE, Mason pass complete to DARDEN, Jaelon for 25 yards to the LATECH44, 1ST DOWN NT (Lewis, Darryl).
    Nt 1-10 at Latech44 Timeout North Texas, clock 00:25.
    Nt 1-10 at Latech44 FINE, Mason pass incomplete to GUYTON, Jalen (Robertson, Amik).
    Nt 2-10 at Latech44 FINE, Mason pass complete to LAWRENCE, M. for 6 yards to the LATECH38 (Robertson, Amik;WASHINGTON, D.).
    Nt 3-4 at Latech38 Timeout North Texas, clock 00:12.
    Nt 3-4 at Latech38 FINE, Mason rush for 7 yards to the LATECH31, 1ST DOWN NT (Spencer, Trey).
    Nt 1-10 at Latech31 Timeout North Texas, clock 00:07.
    Nt 1-10 at Latech31 MOORE, Trevor field goal attempt from 48 GOOD, clock 00:00.
    Yep, that was really a head-scratcher final minute in the first half. The defense literally gave up a FG to prevent a TD. One of the stupidest defensive series I've ever seen.

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    Re: Start Westin Elliot Now!

    Quote Originally Posted by beaux66 View Post
    Firing Baker would be nice. Do we ever play freaking defense
    Defense is not the problem. If the offense would have scored TD's on the FG drives, UNT's score still would be the same, and we would have scored 12 more points (16 if you count in the missed FG), thus making the final 35-24 or 42-24 Tech. The QB is the primary problem. The OL is not doing it's part, but when a QB sits back and reviews the field for a LONG time, then tries to run, get sacked or throws a stupid pass..........there's your problem.

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    Re: Start Westin Elliot Now!

    Baker is just doing what the head coach tells him to do. If he doesn't he will be "moving on to pursue other opportunities".
    This is not the only sport at Tech where the HC is a micromanager to the overall detriment of the program.

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    Re: Start Westin Elliot Now!

    Quote Originally Posted by DogsWin View Post
    Baker is just doing what the head coach tells him to do. If he doesn't he will be "moving on to pursue other opportunities".
    This is not the only sport at Tech where the HC is a micromanager to the overall detriment of the program.
    Unless Skip was talking to him on the mic, Baker and him were not around each other majority of the game. I only saw Skip get in the huddle only a few times.

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    Re: Start Westin Elliot Now!

    Quote Originally Posted by DJDAWG View Post
    Yep, that was really a head-scratcher final minute in the first half. The defense literally gave up a FG to prevent a TD. One of the stupidest defensive series I've ever seen.
    I will blame Holtz for not running the game clock down under 30 seconds instead of calling timeout at 46 seconds before the TD run. Taking another 15-20 seconds off the clock would have forced North Texas to push the pace to even get a FG attempt before halftime.

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    Re: Start Westin Elliot Now!

    Quote Originally Posted by FriscoDawg View Post
    I will blame Holtz for not running the game clock down under 30 seconds before calling the timeout before the TD run. Taking another 15-20 seconds off the clock would have forced North Texas to push the pace to even get a FG attempt before halftime.
    And if the the 3rd down play doesn’t result in a TD, we kick another FG?

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    Re: Start Westin Elliot Now!

    We went into our vaunted prevent defense with 39 seconds left in the half. Had there been just a little more time, they would have scored a TD to end the 1st half.

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    Re: Start Westin Elliot Now!

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Who the reject he hired to be his eyes in the sky?
    No, Tim Rattay. If Holtz would have promoted Tim to OC and not hire that reject, Tim would have gotten Holtz hired away.

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    Re: Start Westin Elliot Now!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Skip Holtz View Post
    No, Tim Rattay. If Holtz would have promoted Tim to OC and not hire that reject, Tim would have gotten Holtz hired away.
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    Re: Start Westin Elliot Now!

    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2180 View Post
    And if the the 3rd down play doesn’t result in a TD, we kick another FG?
    We are talking about what our coach did/didn't do before the 3rd down play. He was in control of the clock not what actually happened on 3rd down.
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    Re: Start Westin Elliot Now!

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    J'Mar lacks time, but he can't make the reads or the throws even when he has time. He missed on several easy passes yesterday.

    Lacking a consistent running game? Boston Scott has proven repeatedly to be our best option, but is still not the starter. Our HC is determined to run the stupid delayed hand off and run outside the tackles. We are negative yardage on both for the season. The "diamond package" worked for a TD yesterday. We never went back to it again.

    Our HC lost the game yesterday.
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    Re: Start Westin Elliot Now!

    Didn't want to come on the board today! But, I like the title of this thread! Pretty sure I herd the quote before recently, "What you got to LOSE"

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    Re: Start Westin Elliot Now!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kodawg View Post
    Who will you blame if it turns out that Holtz is Right? With the same play calls, same number of dropped passes, and the same OL, I don't think it would matter who the QB is.
    BS. It matters. I watched J'Mar very, very closely yesterday. He's gotten much worse since Week 1 instead of better. J'Mar is far too slow handing the ball off. He looks directly at the ball carrier after making a handoff to a RB (instead of carrying out a fake, or faking a pass), and he still holds the football FAR TOO LONG when attempting a pass. Several times yesterday he had receivers wide open, but he waited another 3-5 seconds before finally throwing the pass to them. At that point, it's too late. The opposing DB had recovered, or the WR had simply run out of pattern. It's pathetic. It pains me to say it, but J'Mar is a terrible QB. This team will go no where with him at the helm.

    I think it's mental with J'Mar. Early this season J'Mar was tagged as a "turnover machine" by many because he was careless with the football and repeatedly turned the ball over. Now he has stopped the turnovers, but he appears to be overcompensating. That's why he's holding the ball too long. Instead of throwing on pattern, he's waiting (too long) until a receiver is wide open before even thinking about throwing the ball. Look at his stats. J'Mar had a lot of turnovers early in the season, but also a lot of big plays. Now he's completely stopped the turnovers, but he's also making no big plays. He's such a head case...

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    Re: Start Westin Elliot Now!

    Let's fire Holtz today and turn it over to the guy that ran the most exciting offense in Tech history. I bet he remembers a lot of the plays he ran. We know that Holtz is not going to let somebody else call the plays, so, our team will be better off without him, even if we're short one assistant coach. The time has come to promote Tim Rattay to HC. We will lose more money by keeping Holtz as the head coach than we will by paying him off. Fans are not going to come see the crap that we saw on the field yesterday. Unless you're a huge Jonathon Barnes fan, you're not going to like our games. And, he's been known to miss a few field goals and even extra points.

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