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    Re: HOLTZ to Arkansas -- ad AD

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    Arkansas fired Jeff Long because back in early 2015 Long signed Bielema to a 6-yr contract extension that runs through the 2020 season. The new contract called for Bielema to earn $4 Million in 2015, with $100K increases in each subsequent year. That means Bielema is scheduled to earn $4.3M in 2018, $4.4M in 2019 and $4.5M in 2020. Per the terms of the contract, it will cost Arkansas over $13 MILLION to buy out Bielema's contract before the 2018 season.

    These are exactly the kind of decisions that should get an AD fired.

    http://www.espn.com/college-football...-contract-2020
    That makes sense.

    I have heard rumblings that the boosters have the cash together. Not sure the truth of that. But there's so much money up here, $13M is nothing to these guys.

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    Re: HOLTZ to Arkansas -- ad AD

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Long was fired for talking with Nebraska.
    LOL!!

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    Re: HOLTZ to Arkansas -- ad AD

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Dawg View Post
    That makes sense.

    I have heard rumblings that the boosters have the cash together. Not sure the truth of that. But there's so much money up here, $13M is nothing to these guys.
    It's a lot. But as the previous article (the 2nd article) says, the buyout drops to $11.7M on January 1st, so you can look for Bret Bielema to be fired on January 1st or 2nd.

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    Re: HOLTZ to Arkansas -- ad AD

    Quote Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow View Post
    This is where I get confused on this stuff.

    You say want Rattay to be HC, then say our QB has become stagnant or regressed.....knowing Rattay is the QB coach. Wouldn't this mean that Rattay is not doing a good job as QB coach, if our QB is regressing?

    How does he get a pass on this? I say this being a Tim Rattay (player) fan.
    I don't think it is that simple. Tech's QB obviously has raw talent. As the level increases, talent alone doesn't get a player by. Sometimes, it takes a while to develop the talent. It isn't necessarily bad coaching.

    Actually, if one were to assess learning curves, a plateau early in the process followed by a steep increase is not atypical. We shall see.
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    Re: HOLTZ to Arkansas -- ad AD

    Quote Originally Posted by Dixonfor6 View Post
    Shut up. You’re an idiot
    Correct me if I am mistaken, but I assume you disagree with my assessment? I have been described by many terms, including crazy (which I can't argue with), but never by the term you choose (except by @ Lafayetters). Nevertheless, that's not a nice thing to say.
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    Re: HOLTZ to Arkansas -- ad AD

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Dawg View Post
    Rumor up here is that Bret's getting his walking papers after the Mizzou game. Not sure why they went ahead and fired Long. I thought Long was running things pretty smoothly but I guess they wanted a scapegoat.
    I agree they will fire Beilema. Long lost support of fans, boosters and university leadership. He hired and fired Bobby Petrino and John L. Smith. Two football coaches who ultimately failed. Petrino for his "extra curricular activities" and Smith was just plain terrible. Then he hired Beilema who cannot be considered a success. So three bad football hires and you are toast.

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    Re: HOLTZ to Arkansas -- ad AD

    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    I agree. If they want to keep the slow paced Big 10 style, they will hire someone like Holts. Not sure Arkansas will sell tickets for that.
    OK- I will try and be nice but what part of leading / being in top 5 offenses in the nation in 2014-2015-2016 qualifies as "slow paced". Henderson and Trent did not get NFL contracts coming from "slow pace" - We were defensively challenged those years but top tear no huddle -speed offense

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    Re: HOLTZ to Arkansas -- ad AD

    Quote Originally Posted by Dixonfor6 View Post
    Shut up. You’re an idiot
    pure class--- why are you talking to yourself?? Stodgdog has excellent reputation and his post made sense----May I recommend you not read posters you don't like or take the time to understand their opinion?

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    Re: HOLTZ to Arkansas -- ad AD

    Quote Originally Posted by deb025 View Post
    What was so idiotic about what he said? Looked pretty much spot on to me.
    I agree with you. Dixonford6 resorted to calling someone many of us like an idiot but had zero explaination of why he disagrees--- I was reared ( animals are raised, humans are reared--Dr Fletcher 1970) to avoid name calling --of course so many folks get really tacky online and post crud they would never say to your face-- Idiot being one of them.

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    Re: HOLTZ to Arkansas -- ad AD

    Quote Originally Posted by stodgdog View Post
    I don't think it is that simple. Tech's QB obviously has raw talent. As the level increases, talent alone doesn't get a player by. Sometimes, it takes a while to develop the talent. It isn't necessarily bad coaching.

    Actually, if one were to assess learning curves, a plateau early in the process followed by a steep increase is not atypical. We shall see.
    Well, my fingers are crossed. I hope you are right.

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    Re: HOLTZ to Arkansas -- ad AD

    Quote Originally Posted by stodgdog View Post
    I don't think it is that simple. Tech's QB obviously has raw talent. As the level increases, talent alone doesn't get a player by. Sometimes, it takes a while to develop the talent. It isn't necessarily bad coaching.

    Actually, if one were to assess learning curves, a plateau early in the process followed by a steep increase is not atypical. We shall see.
    I think some of it is on coach (just not Rattay). I think our QB is hurting in confidence right now, and it may be because coach has kept the offense on such a short leash since the interception at SC.

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    Re: HOLTZ to Arkansas -- ad AD

    Quote Originally Posted by Dixonfor6 View Post
    Shut up. You’re an idiot
    Completely uncalled for; Stodgdog is very knowledgeable, smart, and spot-on most of the time.

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    Re: HOLTZ to Arkansas -- ad AD

    Computer breathalyzer needed. It was a very early post for him.

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    Re: HOLTZ to Arkansas -- ad AD

    Just on line Ark coach has been fired after loss today

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    Re: HOLTZ to Arkansas -- ad AD

    Quote Originally Posted by ronmyster View Post
    Just on line Ark coach has been fired after loss today
    They couldn't wait a month and save a few mil.

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