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    Re: 2017 Coaching Carousel

    Sonny could do very well at SMU.

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    Will Torbush Stay Retired?

    Do you think former Louisiana Tech head football coach Carl Torbush will stay retired and, if not, where do you see him fitting?

    http://www.citizentribune.com/content/tncms/live/

    ETSU football coach Torbush announces retirement

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    Re: 2017 Coaching Carousel

    https://www.sbnation.com/college-foo...-justin-wilcox

    (From earlier this year) The short-term is uncertain, but both parties can grow from here.

    Dykes wasn't unemployed for long. Although he could’ve sat out 2017 and remained a viable head coaching candidate for the next cycle, by joining TCU’s staff, he can build on his relationships in Texas and position himself for openings in 2018 without any political maneuvering.

    His resume is attractive. As a head coach, he rebuilt two programs with high-powered offenses. His academic record is fantastic (single year APR in 2016 of 997), and he’s been scandal-free, which is why Baylor and Rhoades had some interest.



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    Re: 2017 Coaching Carousel

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    It never matters what they payout is. We get a distribution from C-USA to cover expenses. We've NEVER made money from playing in bowl games.
    According to the last conference handbook posted, C-USA schools get 100% of the first $100K of their own bowl ticket sales plus 50% of the rest of their own ticket sales. And then bowl expenses are covered before net bowl revenues are determined to distribute to bowl teams only (10% of the net total divided by bowl teams) and then to all schools (remaining 90% of net divided by 14).

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    Re: 2017 Coaching Carousel

    Quote Originally Posted by FriscoDawg View Post
    According to the last conference handbook posted, C-USA schools get 100% of the first $100K of their own bowl ticket sales plus 50% of the rest of their own ticket sales. And then bowl expenses are covered before net bowl revenues are determined to distribute to bowl teams only (10% of the net total divided by bowl teams) and then to all schools (remaining 90% of net divided by 14).
    Poor utsa

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    Re: 2017 Coaching Carousel

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Sonny could do very well at SMU.
    You think?

    SMU won't allow him to juco up their place. I don't see him being any more successful than he was at Cal. SMU also knows that if he has any success at all they will only have him for as long as it takes Texas Tech to fire their pretty boy. It Tony Franklin ready to come back to Sonny?

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    Sonny Dykes May Become SMU’s New Coach?

    Avinash Kunnath reports that Sonny Dykes, Louisiana Tech’s former head football coach, is SMU’”leading candidate.”

    Read “Sources: Dykes leading candidate for SMU job” at:

    http://kwese.espn.com/college-footba...ching-position

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    Re: 2017 Coaching Carousel

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    You think?

    SMU won't allow him to juco up their place. I don't see him being any more successful than he was at Cal. SMU also knows that if he has any success at all they will only have him for as long as it takes Texas Tech to fire their pretty boy. It Tony Franklin ready to come back to Sonny?
    I think they'll gladly allow him to juco up as long as the wins come. The only problem with Sonny was that he had a 3 year strategy. Had he set his JUCO recruiting so that it was continual (as if he wasn't leaving), I don't think there's any reason that we couldn't have been at 9-10 wins every year. Particularly with this CUSA that he'd be competing in.
    Time is your friend. Impulse is your enemy. -John Bogle

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    Re: 2017 Coaching Carousel

    As for building and maintaining a Div I program via the JUCO route, no reason it couldn't work. It's just that you have a tighter margin of error. Have an off year or two in signing good JUCO players, and you'll suffer a down year or two. But, if those were just a couple of down years, then in theory, the program would just as quickly bounce back. It's more volatile.

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    Re: 2017 Coaching Carousel

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    I think they'll gladly allow him to juco up as long as the wins come. The only problem with Sonny was that he had a 3 year strategy. Had he set his JUCO recruiting so that it was continual (as if he wasn't leaving), I don't think there's any reason that we couldn't have been at 9-10 wins every year. Particularly with this CUSA that he'd be competing in.
    Jucos don't work long term for anybody not named Bill Snyder. They are good for the occasional quick fix or the project that turned his business around in year one of Juco, but just going and getting 4 to 5 great athletes every year is dangerous for recruiting and for APR. We suffered damage in both areas after Dykes left. It took four years to get our scholarship numbers back and our APR somewhat repaired.

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    Re: 2017 Coaching Carousel

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Jucos don't work long term for anybody not named Bill Snyder. They are good for the occasional quick fix or the project that turned his business around in year one of Juco, but just going and getting 4 to 5 great athletes every year is dangerous for recruiting and for APR. We suffered damage in both areas after Dykes left. It took four years to get our scholarship numbers back and our APR somewhat repaired.
    Like I said, if the wins come, nobody will care.
    Time is your friend. Impulse is your enemy. -John Bogle

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    Re: 2017 Coaching Carousel

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Like I said, if the wins come, nobody will care.
    The wins came for us, then we cared a lot in 2013. Holtz never complained to the press, but in closed settings he mentioned our issues several times. Those who knew cared.

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    Re: 2017 Coaching Carousel

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    The wins came for us, then we cared a lot in 2013. Holtz never complained to the press, but in closed settings he mentioned our issues several times. Those who knew cared.
    I think that has more to do with the exit schedule than the JUCOs. Holtz never complained to the press? 32 seniors? I mean, that wasn't necessarily a JUCO complaint, but the two go hand in hand.
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    Re: 2017 Coaching Carousel

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    I think that has more to do with the exit schedule than the JUCOs. Holtz never complained to the press? 32 seniors? I mean, that wasn't necessarily a JUCO complaint, but the two go hand in hand.
    There were plenty of issues with Holtz Year 1, but he was beyond gracious when talking about the situation he was left with in public (as far as I ever saw). All those jucos Holtz signed that year, he acted like it was just about replacing graduating seniors and not like Dykes had been slacking on recruiting ahead of leaving.

    That said, I think Dykes can win at SMU. I think either Sonny currently in Fort Worth would be a good fit for the ponies. Shame that whoever it is will have to rebuild morale after the stomping I hope we put on them in the bowl.

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    Re: 2017 Coaching Carousel

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Holtz never complained to the press? 32 seniors? I mean, that wasn't necessarily a JUCO complaint, but the two go hand in hand.
    The "we lost xxx seniors" propaganda isn't what I mean Holtz is/was keeping quiet about.

    Our scholarship totals were skewed until 2016. We never had a full 85 and a full class due to what happened with Dykes/Franklin until last year.

    Our football APR is just now recovering with 2012-13 finally dropping off. One more year of 2013-14.

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