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    Hudspeth out in LaLa Land

    Sorry didn't see this already posted in Coaching Carousel...can't figure out how to delete

    http://www.theadvertiser.com/story/sports/college/ul/2017/12/03/mark-hudspeth-ul-lafayette-football-coach-fired/914953001/

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    Re: Hudspeth out in LaLa Land

    And a real eye-opener and warning to those Holtz apologists who defend Skippy no matter what!

    Hudspeth was VERY successful at a historical losing program. FOUR straight bowl wins, and 10-win seasons, actually better than what Holtz has accomplished here. Yes, it is true Holtz has faced a tougher overall schedule, but Holtz also benefitted from being at a program that has some winning tradition. Then when he no longer had any recruits from someone else, Hud failed miserably.

    Just be aware....

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    Re: Hudspeth out in LaLa Land

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    And a real eye-opener and warning to those Holtz apologists who defend Skippy no matter what!

    Hudspeth was VERY successful at a historical losing program. FOUR straight bowl wins, and 10-win seasons, actually better than what Holtz has accomplished here. Yes, it is true Holtz has faced a tougher overall schedule, but Holtz also benefitted from being at a program that has some winning tradition. Then when he no longer had any recruits from someone else, Hud failed miserably.

    Just be aware....

    Hud cheated, got caught, and was able to blame somebody else. Cheating is the Lafayette way.

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    Re: Hudspeth out in LaLa Land

    When that USL basketball coach cheated, back in the early 70's, he had least had a Top 20 team to show for it. Ya mean Hud cheated and he still lost? That really sucks!

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    Re: Hudspeth out in LaLa Land

    True. However, Hudspeth also brought very serious NCAA sanctions and bowl forfeits under his watch as well as felony criminal activities of his players against another (former) player. His legacy is a multifaceted embarrassment for ULoL, it wasn't just about losing football games.

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    Re: Hudspeth out in LaLa Land

    Yawn

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    Re: Hudspeth out in LaLa Land

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    When that USL basketball coach cheated, back in the early 70's, he had least had a Top 20 team to show for it. Ya mean Hud cheated and he still lost? That really sucks!
    That's on point except the 71-72 basketball team was a Top Ten ranked team in both of the final polls, and it was their first year in the "university" level playground. They did everything with a flare, including cheating. They were playing in the NCAA basketball tournament when there were only 24 teams invited.

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    Re: Hudspeth out in LaLa Land

    There is no comparison between Hud and Holtz. Holtz has outstanding character while Hud has ... well, you know.

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    Re: Hudspeth out in LaLa Land

    They'll probably blame Tech. They've been on a downward spiral since we went down there and beat them in 2014. Can we pull up that old thread where they came on this board and bragged about how bad they were going to beat us?

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    Re: Hudspeth out in LaLa Land

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    And a real eye-opener and warning to those Holtz apologists who defend Skippy no matter what!

    Hudspeth was VERY successful at a historical losing program. FOUR straight bowl wins, and 10-win seasons, actually better than what Holtz has accomplished here. Yes, it is true Holtz has faced a tougher overall schedule, but Holtz also benefitted from being at a program that has some winning tradition. Then when he no longer had any recruits from someone else, Hud failed miserably.

    Just be aware....
    Here's the difference -- and it's a BIG difference -- Skip Holtz was coming off three consecutive winning seasons. He's now had four consecutive non-losing seasons (pending the outcome of the bowl game). He hasn't had a losing season since his first season. Hud followed his success with three straight losing seasons. Say we lose the bowl game and finished 6-7, then follow that up with a 4-8 season next year, then we are talking about a different scenario. Yes, if Skip Holtz has three straight losing seasons he will lose any capital that he's built up over the past three seasons with good years and bowl victories, and he will deserve to be let go.
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    Re: Hudspeth out in LaLa Land

    Quote Originally Posted by DONW View Post
    They'll probably blame Tech. They've been on a downward spiral since we went down there and beat them in 2014. Can we pull up that old thread where they came on this board and bragged about how bad they were going to beat us?
    Wasn' that the year they invited all of our recruits to the game to witness the beat down? What a maroon.

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    Re: Hudspeth out in LaLa Land

    Lafayette will owe Hud $1,500,000. Also, I believe their former softball coach is suing them. I wonder what is their price tag for a new coach?

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    Re: Hudspeth out in LaLa Land

    Quote Originally Posted by DONW View Post
    They'll probably blame Tech. They've been on a downward spiral since we went down there and beat them in 2014. Can we pull up that old thread where they came on this board and bragged about how bad they were going to beat us?
    Yep. Things have gone downhill steadily for ULL since that ass whipping.

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    Re: Hudspeth out in LaLa Land

    Quote Originally Posted by brtransplant View Post
    Yep. Things have gone downhill steadily for ULL since that ass whipping.
    That's a shame

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    Re: Hudspeth out in LaLa Land

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    And a real eye-opener and warning to those Holtz apologists who defend Skippy no matter what!

    Hudspeth was VERY successful at a historical losing program. FOUR straight bowl wins, and 10-win seasons, actually better than what Holtz has accomplished here. Yes, it is true Holtz has faced a tougher overall schedule, but Holtz also benefitted from being at a program that has some winning tradition. Then when he no longer had any recruits from someone else, Hud failed miserably.

    Just be aware....
    1. Coach Hud never had a 10-win season at Lafayette, much less seasons. He had four 9-4 seasons (before wins were vacated due to the cheating ULL did), but not a 10-win season.
    2. Coach Hud never beat a P5 school nor a Top-25 ranked team in his seven years at Lafayette.
    3. Two of UL-L's bowl wins were vacated due to the cheating. Holtz's bowl straight bowl wins at Tech came against a P5 school (Illinois), the Sun Belt Champs (Arkansas State), and #25 Navy.
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