Theoretical Question

[PawDawg]

i give up, pawdawg. price is not the same thing as cost, but we're clearly talking past each other.

You'll be able to say the price/cost went up because of your theory.

You can't explain why it has gone up every year by double digit percentages.

[Champ967]

I gotta say... it's a hoot to watch y'all go round and round on this.

Your assignment for tomorrow is a 3 paragraph essay on "market failure"

[dawg80]

If you are implying the market has failed re: health care, then you are way off base. We have NOT ever had a market-driven HC system.

[johnnylightnin]

I'm not. You guys refuse to believe money being paid as premiums or fines makes the current cost go down. Those amounts don't matter.

I've explained it as logically as possible by pointing out the prices/costs have gone up from day one and according the the bogus CBO, the number of people paying has gone up as well.

Maybe an educated guess, but you've already said that the numbers are bogus and that logic doesn't apply. Thus, your read on the situation can't be quantified.

There are a number of reasons costs AND buyers could be going up...like there being a disproportionate number of sick people being amongst the new premium payers.

Democracy is messy and it appears that there is no stomach in the electorate for denying folks health coverage because they have pre-existing conditions. The chief evidence of this is the inability of the GOP to pass an ACA repeal.

[johnnylightnin]

I gotta say... it's a hoot to watch y'all go round and round on this.

Your assignment for tomorrow is a 3 paragraph essay on "market failure"

If you are implying the market has failed re: health care, then you are way off base. We have NOT ever had a market-driven HC system.

It'd be real tough to argue that, in healthcare, the allocation of goods and services is efficient.

[PawDawg]

Democracy is messy and it appears that there is no stomach in the electorate for denying folks health coverage because they have pre-existing conditions. The chief evidence of this is the inability of the GOP to pass an ACA repeal.

People are still not buying it because it cost too much. Even sick people who need the coverage are passing on it because of the cost. People will never be denied health coverage again. Mark that down.

[dawg80]

It'd be real tough to argue that, in healthcare, the allocation of goods and services is efficient.

Efficient? Hardly.

[Champ967]

Efficient? Hardly.

You didn't look up "market failure", did you?