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    Re: Release The Memo!

    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    Could the FISA judge be in on it all too? Maybe he could see or knew the extent of the political bias of the dossier as well as who paid for it, but it was very lucrative for him to grant the warrant anyway.
    Lucrative in what way?

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    Re: Release The Memo!

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Why leave out any evidence you have when showing probable cause?
    I think Nunes' point was that not all relevant information was disclosed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Bottom line, judge was told that Steele was hired to discredit Trump campaign. Nunes wanted you to believe the judge didn’t know about his political motivations and bias. Nunes’s statements were designed to mislead Trump’s sheeple and create outrage in conservative circles. Steele dossier was never all that there was behind the surveillance of Carter Page. The fact that a judge would grant the surveillance warrant when the political motivations behind the Steele dossier were known is all you need to know that is true.
    That is not what the judge was told according to Schiff. The judge was told Steele was hired to look into Trump's ties to Russia. The FBI speculated the reason was to discredit the campaign, but the motivation was not known. Or, in other words, the FBI assigned a reason without determining the reason. Also, the full extent to who (Clinton, DNC, Fusion GPS) was involved as Nunes' stated was not revealed and Schiff does nothing to contradict that. Also also, Nunes' memo never claimed the dossier to be the sole or primary source for the FISA application. Nunes' claim was "essential" and Schiff says it was a part. If the evidence the FBI already had was enough for the judge, the dossier would not have been needed at all. But as it was used to support prior findings, the dossier became essential.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    We would have even more to illustrate what a farce the whole Nunes memo was if Trump wouldn’t have gotten cold feet on how important “transparency” is, but - alas - this memo was still enough to show that Nunes is nothing more than a partisan hack doing Trump’s bidding in matters he was supposed to be recused from. Which is really the whole point of recusal.
    Count me as someone that really wants to see the redacted parts. However, I don't think there is anything within the redacted parts that would shine a new or alternative light beyond what both Nunes and Schiff had already done to try and prove the other wrong.


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    But ethics 101 has gone to compete shit since Trump started laying his turds in Washington.
    Not throughout the government.

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    Re: Release The Memo!

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Lucrative in what way?
    I’m just throwing out a crazy idea that the Klintons, dems, or someone else could ha r been lining his pockets to ignore the bias and grant a warrant. After all, by their own admission, without the unsubstantiated dossier there would have been no FISA warrant.

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    Re: Release The Memo!

    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    I’m just throwing out a crazy idea that the Klintons, dems, or someone else could ha r been lining his pockets to ignore the bias and grant a warrant. After all, by their own admission, without the unsubstantiated dossier there would have been no FISA warrant.
    I hope you don’t actually believe that.

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    Re: Release The Memo!

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    I hope you don’t actually believe that.

    What, that the main piece of evidence is a fake dossier, or that a judge could be bought?

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    Re: Release The Memo!

    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    What, that the main piece of evidence is a fake dossier, or that a judge could be bought?
    I meant the latter, but really believing either is hoping against the odds.

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    Re: Release The Memo!

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    I meant the latter, but really believing either is hoping against the odds.
    I don’t believe the latter to be true, but it had crossed my mind. I believe most people involved in this whole thing have acted in good faith.

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    Re: Release The Memo!

    Now that the 'craps have released their memo, we see what Nunes said is absolutely true on the central issue: the dossier.

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    Re: Release The Memo!

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Now that the 'craps have released their memo, we see what Nunes said is absolutely true on the central issue: the dossier.
    What is true about it?

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    Re: Release The Memo!

    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    I’m just throwing out a crazy idea that the Klintons, dems, or someone else could ha r been lining his pockets to ignore the bias and grant a warrant. After all, by their own admission, without the unsubstantiated dossier there would have been no FISA warrant.
    That could be a strong possibility if you add Soros money as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Now that the 'craps have released their memo, we see what Nunes said is absolutely true on the central issue: the dossier.
    100% agreement.

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    Re: Release The Memo!

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    That could be a strong possibility if you add Soros money as well.
    No it couldn’t.

    These were 4 different Republican-appointed Federal judges.

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    Re: Release The Memo!

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    No it couldn’t.

    These were 4 different Republican-appointed Federal judges.
    ??? and

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    Re: Release The Memo!

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    ??? and
    Explain how it is a “strong possibility”.

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    Re: Release The Memo!

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Explain how it is a “strong possibility”.
    ...intelligent but borderline dumbass with dwindling credibility!
    I'm an asshole! What's your excuse?

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    Re: Release The Memo!

    Quote Originally Posted by CARTEK View Post
    ...intelligent but borderline dumbass with dwindling credibility!
    So you think there is a strong possibility that 4 federal judges were paid off too?

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