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The socialist liberals/Dems demanded that God, Christ and prayer be taking out of America's schools, deemed that it was ok for babies to be murdered still within the womb and protested the rule of law with motto "if it feels good do it". IMHO, it's as simple as that my friends.Originally Posted by FriscoDog
More pretty charts here that actually debunk the idea that it has gotten worse recently. One of the slides shows gun homicide rate decreasing since the 1980s.
Other charts show an undeniable correlation in per capita gun death and gun ownership - both in comparing states (Alaska and LA are off the charts for per capita gun death) and then comparing countries.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox...cs-maps-charts
Let's put a sign on everyone's house that reads either:
1. We have guns and will use them to protect ourselves
or
2. We hate guns, don't have any, all criminals welcome to do what you please
Which houses are thugs, home invaders, more likely to hit? I think in fairness to criminals, such information should be required. If a person posts the #2 sign, but actually does have guns and then ambushes home invaders, they should be guilty of a crime too. That could be pre-mediated murder, or attempted murder, depending on how good a shot they are. If a person posts sign #1 then they are 100% free to use deadly force to defend their family and property. Some idiot thug ignores the warning....too bad.
One might think that statistically the chances that any one household will be "home invaded" is very low. True. But, I think we should be allowed to defend our property with deadly force too. Even in relatively quiet and "crime free" Natchitoches, we have burglaries and theft incidents. Thugs, often drug heads, looking to steal something they can hock to get money to buy more drugs. Even those morons would appreciate signage like I mentioned above.
What do you think, all you anti-gun libtards, would you feel better with you and your neighbors posting such signs?
Do you think advertising your guns might increase the chance that someone breaks into your house during work hours to steal your guns?
If not, what makes you safest would be to post the sign that says you have guns but not to actually have them.
Not advocating that you shouldn’t have a right to defend yourself, just advocating that you should know how you are making yourself less safe. But you have the constitutional right to do so!
Anyone breaking into my home while I'm away has to negotiate another hazard....my dogs. They would prefer being shot to being torn apart and eaten!
If we were to follow your advice....post the sign saying we have guns....but not actually have them would provide for that incident of someone breaking in to steal our guns while we're gone. You think they won't take something...my new HUGE flat screen TV... and do damage to the house? So, I put myself at risk of that, but would never have the means to defend myself. No thanks.
But, I do find it interesting that you agree that posting signage of having guns "makes you safest." Why do you think that is? I'll tell you why, because while criminals are disgusting creeps they are not totally stupid.
I also appreciate you recognize it's my Constitutional right to do so. Yes it is.
I don’t doubt that you feel safer, but the stats say that the people in your home are less safe because of the presence of guns. The stats say they are more likely to find themselves a victim of that gun than anyone is to use that gun in self defense.
And I didn’t agree that the sign makes you safer. I don’t know that it does. I suspect it increases your risk of burglary when you are not home.
The fear of another person with a gun is a boogeyman fear. It is a low probability event, lower than a household member dying by your gun.
Maybe one key is not making a big deal out of it. Have some uniformed and some plain clothes officers so a perp doesn’t know what to look out for. Do neighborhood watches prove effective because you never know which house a watchman might be hanging around. Low key is better than any kind of attention in this instance, IMO.
Most burglaries happen during the day because people don’t want to get caught. That is why neighborhood watches can be effective. Not the fear of getting shot.
That’s kind of what I am saying. I support gun ownership and am a gun owner, but guns don’t have to be the first line of defense. I went to a Chase Bank location one time looking for someone and not one employee looked at me when I walked in. All heads down at their desk with no greeting. Every place I have ever worked out a focus on acknowledging people when they walk in because it puts them on notice that you have seen and can ID them.
We need to be more observant and less engrossed in our phones.
True. Many people now work from home. In my neighborhood, there had been thefts that happened during the day. One of my neighbors a few streets over was home and people knocked on his door. Then they went around the back and tried to force their way in the back door. When they did, he was there with a gun and shot them. Killed one and wounded two more. Called the cops and they were arrested.
When you consider the people you have known personally (not including stories of unknown “neighbors”), which number is greater:
A. Gun suicides + domestic shootings + gun accidents, or
B. Used gun in self defense?
Just wondering if people’s individual experience are out of line with the stats.
Sometimes people don't think and accidents happen. It's life.
Google teens eating detergent pods (or people voting for Hillary) to see how careless people can be at times. Some grow out of it...some don't.
Oh I definitely can research them but now its obvious they can't be answered by an old Tech grad, like yourself, at all. Are you ignorant about the topic? If not, you could have answered the questions easily (many with just one word). Maybe the reason is laziness? Really I think I know why you wouldn't. You would have to admit truths that you refuse to believe or fathom.
-Trump is using ideas from the left. (So by your definition, Trump is not using reason or logic to make a choice or the left uses reason and logic. You can't admit either.)
-His ideas wouldn't stop the shooting in Florida. (His plan doesn't fix the problem so Trump isn't the solution.)
-Conservatives are divided on the issue, not united. (The right isn't the answer to the problem either.)
You can't answer questions but ask them back. You are hypocritically talented TT.
But to answer your question- I ignore those threads and comments usually so they don't bother me.
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