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    Re: Another FBI and/or Obama "Deep State" screw-up?

    It's about to get really stick for the "Deep State". Barr is going to expose all of it!!!!

    No Russia collusion or obstruction and no impeachment after the pitiful and sorry Democrats and Mueller showing today.
    You Socialist Dems are about to bite the freaking big one.

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    Re: Another FBI and/or Obama "Deep State" screw-up?

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    It's about to get really stick for the "Deep State". Barr is going to expose all of it!!!!

    No Russia collusion or obstruction and no impeachment after the pitiful and sorry Democrats and Mueller showing today.
    You Socialist Dems are about to bite the freaking big one.
    Pretty sure the overwhelming point of today is that there are facts supporting obstruction of justice and that Republicans don’t care.

    The other point was that Trump can be indicted when he leaves office.

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    Re: Another FBI and/or Obama "Deep State" screw-up?

    The overwhelming point of today was that Mueller has a 400+ page report with his name at the TOP of the report and he had no idea what was inside it. Mueller was just a figure head.. So who was actually running the investigation??

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    Re: Another FBI and/or Obama "Deep State" screw-up?

    You must have missed the introduction.

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    Re: Another FBI and/or Obama "Deep State" screw-up?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Pretty sure the overwhelming point of today is that there are facts supporting obstruction of justice and that Republicans don’t care.

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Nope.
    The other point was that Trump can be indicted when he leaves office.
    Good luck as Trump will still be in office way past the 5 years allowed to do that at all.

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    Re: Another FBI and/or Obama "Deep State" screw-up?

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Good luck as Trump will still be in office way past the 5 years allowed to do that at all.
    So you don’t want Trump to be accountable for breaking the law?

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    Re: Another FBI and/or Obama "Deep State" screw-up?

    Quote Originally Posted by FriscoDog View Post
    The overwhelming point of today was that Mueller has a 400+ page report with his name at the TOP of the report and he had no idea what was inside it. Mueller was just a figure head.. So who was actually running the investigation??
    That was the closest thing to a bombshell that came out of the hearing. Mueller didn't seem to know what was in the report. Must have been an ACA type deal that they had to release the report to find out what was in it.

    From Guisslapps comments and what I have read on some more left leaning sites, it sounds like the Democrats felt like it was a mixed bag, some are saying it was a big win and they laid the hammer down while others are saying it wasn't what they needed. Republicans seem pretty happy with how it went.

    As expected, most people saw what they wanted to see unless they were looking for clear cut path to impeachment in which case it fell short.

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    Re: Another FBI and/or Obama "Deep State" screw-up?

    It went how I expected. Mueller said in his press conference previously his testimony would not go further than the report. His introductory comment said the same.

    He was clearly trying to avoid embellishing or expanding his testimony behind the report.

    This played out like typical Congressional testimony - members of Congress grandstanding.

    But it definitely puts a dagger through Trump’s lies once again and the idea that Mueller is a deep state hack. He could have roasted Trump and made the Dems job easy if he wanted to. The facts and his report support it. He understands how important it is not to politicize the investigation, because he believes the Russian election meddling threat should be taken very seriously. Wish Trump would get on board with taking it seriously.

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    Re: Another FBI and/or Obama "Deep State" screw-up?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    It went how I expected. Mueller said in his press conference previously his testimony would not go further than the report. His introductory comment said the same.
    Yep

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    He was clearly trying to avoid embellishing or expanding his testimony behind the report.
    True

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    This played out like typical Congressional testimony - members of Congress grandstanding.
    Yep

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    But it definitely puts a dagger through Trump’s lies once again and the idea that Mueller is a deep state hack. He could have roasted Trump and made the Dems job easy if he wanted to. The facts and his report support it. He understands how important it is not to politicize the investigation, because he believes the Russian election meddling threat should be taken very seriously. Wish Trump would get on board with taking it seriously.
    And that is where you saw what you wanted to see. Mueller didn't seem to hold back when he felt like he could say something contrary to the president, but he definitely seemed to want to avoid the grandstanding the R's and D's were doing. Pretty sharp contrast with Comey.

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    Re: Another FBI and/or Obama "Deep State" screw-up?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    So you don’t want Trump to be accountable for breaking the law?
    Nobody has proven he has broken any law. Period.
    He has only tried to defend himself against bogus accusations.

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    Re: Another FBI and/or Obama "Deep State" screw-up?

    Quote Originally Posted by detltu View Post
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    And that is where you saw what you wanted to see. Mueller didn't seem to hold back when he felt like he could say something contrary to the president, but he definitely seemed to want to avoid the grandstanding the R's and D's were doing. Pretty sharp contrast with Comey.
    Certainly when I heard exactly what I expected to hear, I thought it was for the reasons that I expected to hear it. And I recognize that there is some degree of confirmation bias to that, but had it gone differently I would have acknowledged I was wrong.

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    Re: Another FBI and/or Obama "Deep State" screw-up?

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Nobody has proven he has broken any law. Period.
    He has only tried to defend himself against bogus accusations.
    Not saying that he has been proven. Can’t say it is proven until Trump has had a chance to offer any evidence he has to rebut the case that has been laid out in the Mueller report. But the bottom line is that there is sufficient evidence to impeach/indict, but if the Republicans aren’t willing to hold him accountable, impeaching Trump would only be doing him a favor.

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    Re: Another FBI and/or Obama "Deep State" screw-up?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Not saying that he has been proven. Can’t say it is proven until Trump has had a chance to offer any evidence he has to rebut the case that has been laid out in the Mueller report. But the bottom line is that there is sufficient evidence to impeach/indict, but if the Republicans aren’t willing to hold him accountable, impeaching Trump would only be doing him a favor.
    Dude, the Weismann report is a dud, full of innuendo prepared by a bunch of Clintonites.

    Five more years of a Trump presidency, that’s what you have to look forward to.

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    Re: Another FBI and/or Obama "Deep State" screw-up?

    Quote Originally Posted by glm47 View Post
    Dude, the Weismann report is a dud, full of innuendo prepared by a bunch of Clintonites.

    Five more years of a Trump presidency, that’s what you have to look forward to.
    Weismann had already left by the time Mueller signed and turned in the report. Try not to be such a tool of the right wing propaganda machine.

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    Re: Another FBI and/or Obama "Deep State" screw-up?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Weismann had already left by the time Mueller signed and turned in the report. Try not to be such a tool of the right wing propaganda machine.
    How about we take a survey of who the tool is? Nothing you say carries any credibility because of your hatred of Trump.

    Mueller had to come back out and state that a determination about obstruction was not made, meaning he didn't have enough for obstruction, otherwise he would have said so.

    Mueller is senile, he didn't even know what Fusion GPS was, or so it seemed from his testimony. The real collusion, if any, was between the Clinton campaign and the Russians. Why did Mueller's team not follow that evidence. I've yet to see any evidence that the Russians impacted the election anyway. I'm still waiting on that.

    As I've told you before, I get my news from the WSJ. That is the only source I need. You should try it sometimes instead of that left-wing garbage you love so much.

    Did you hear David Gergen on CNN after the testimony? His comments were very telling.

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