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    Law Question

    When is it legal to ignore attorney/client privilege?

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    I think you need to ask two questions, morally and legally. Then you can look at national security , serial killer, vs the pure legal question. As you can see I have a problem with some issues that the law would not recognize as a defense attorney. I would have none as a prosecutor it is sacrosanct.

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    Re: Law Question

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    When is it legal to ignore attorney/client privilege?
    Trick question. Who said it’s being ignored?

    If there is probable cause to believe that the attorney is himself a participant in the fraud, the privilege doesn’t apply.

    Also, it is an evidentiary privilege not really a shield that blocks all information that would be covered by the privilege from being turned over during an investigation or discovery. From a criminal investigation stand point, you want a “clean team” that will handle any document that might be sensitive, so in case a judge determines that the privilege applies, you don’t have a poison fruit effect where you contaminate other evidence that you collect that would also thereafter have to be legally excluded.

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    Re: Law Question

    Also, in the case of Stormy Daniels documents, we have already had Trump and Cohen’s attorney claiming that Trump was not a client on the Daniels’ settlement (rather he was a third party beneficiary), thus the communications pertaining to that would not involve the seeking of legal advice and would be less likely to be covered by the privilege.

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    Re: Law Question

    Haven't they admitted that they are trying to find something on the pay off of the whore?

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    Re: Law Question

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    pay off of the whore?
    Hey! He's our president. It's disrespectful to call his former extramarital bed partner a whore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Hey! He's our president. It's disrespectful to call his former extramarital bed partner a whore.

    LOL! Have you noticed how they (drive by media) refrain from calling her a prostitute and call her a porn star instead? Like there's a big difference…

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    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Haven't they admitted that they are trying to find something on the pay off of the whore?
    They seem to be investigating a fraud. Wire fraud, bank fraud and potential FEC violation, Why else would a Trump appointed US Attorney ask for and receive a search warrant?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    They seem to be investigating a fraud. Wire fraud, bank fraud and potential FEC violation, Why else would a Trump appointed US Attorney ask for and receive a search warrant?
    Right. Why else would they. Has to be bad. Good thing this Russian collusion thing led them to the whore.

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    Re: Law Question

    Nothing illegal about paying off a whore. Making misrepresentations to a bank can get you in trouble though.

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    Re: Law Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Nothing illegal about paying off a whore. Making misrepresentations to a bank can get you in trouble though.
    that's not what they are saying they are looking for.

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    Re: Law Question

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    that's not what they are saying they are looking for.
    It is if they are saying that he lied about the purpose of the loan.

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    Re: Law Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    It is if they are saying that he lied about the purpose of the loan.
    is CNN saying he borrowed money to pay off the whore?

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    Re: Law Question

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    is CNN saying he borrowed money to pay off the whore?
    Cohen claimed he borrowed against his house.

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    Re: Law Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Cohen claimed he borrowed against his house.
    Wow a home equity loan used for what the borrower wanted to use it for. That's BIG!

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