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    Re: Liberal Losers

    You realize that Trump met with his team last weekend at Camp David to cook up this latest political salvo. Most likely because he needs a distraction from the heat he is taking over his coronavirus failures.

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    Re: Liberal Losers

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    You realize that Trump met with his team last weekend at Camp David to cook up this latest political salvo. Most likely because he needs a distraction from the heat he is taking over his coronavirus failures.
    Really, really sad.

    You're use of "cook up" makes it seem like they are making things up (similar to Trump using the word hoax).

    Otherwise, him meeting with his people to discuss how to spin the latest news in their favor is certainly shocking and definitely not something every other politician (or wanna be politician) does on a regular basis right?

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    Re: Liberal Losers

    Quote Originally Posted by detltu View Post
    Really, really sad.

    You're use of "cook up" makes it seem like they are making things up (similar to Trump using the word hoax).

    Otherwise, him meeting with his people to discuss how to spin the latest news in their favor is certainly shocking and definitely not something every other politician (or wanna be politician) does on a regular basis right?
    It is cooked up because there is nothing wrong with the underlying fact that they are trying to spin. What do you think was done that was wrong? Just curious.

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    Re: Liberal Losers

    Been telling you for three years what happened. Now it’s coming out in the judicial system. Suddenly what has been a conspiracy theory for three years is now all legal

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    Re: Liberal Losers

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Been telling you for three years what happened. Now it’s coming out in the judicial system. Suddenly what has been a conspiracy theory for three years is now all legal
    What do you think happened?

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    Re: Liberal Losers

    The list is long. Your peeps are going down.

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    Re: Liberal Losers

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    It is cooked up because there is nothing wrong with the underlying fact that they are trying to spin. What do you think was done that was wrong? Just curious.
    Spying on a political opponent.
    using paid opposition research to justify a FISA warrant
    lying to Congress
    lying to the FISA court
    "cooking up" a scheme to entrap the new national security advisor (including misleading him about the nature of the conversation and the need to have a lawyer present)


    All of those things are wrong. Some of them are actually even illegal. The fact that the President and Vice president were involved is certainly scandal worthy. In reality it's probably just business as usual, but if we are going to be outraged at everything Trump, you should at least try to practice at least a little intellectual honesty.

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    Re: Liberal Losers

    Quote Originally Posted by detltu View Post
    Spying on a political opponent.
    using paid opposition research to justify a FISA warrant
    lying to Congress
    lying to the FISA court
    "cooking up" a scheme to entrap the new national security advisor (including misleading him about the nature of the conversation and the need to have a lawyer present)


    All of those things are wrong. Some of them are actually even illegal. The fact that the President and Vice president were involved is certainly scandal worthy. In reality it's probably just business as usual, but if we are going to be outraged at everything Trump, you should at least try to practice at least a little intellectual honesty.
    1. Explain the facts of spying that have you concerned. Who did what.
    2. The FISA application said the facts came from paid opposition research.
    3. What was the lie to Congress?
    4. What was the lie to the FISA court?
    5. Boxing in a witness is not entrapment. That is literally textbook investigative questioning.

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    Re: Liberal Losers

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    1. Explain the facts of spying that have you concerned. Who did what.
    2. The FISA application said the facts came from paid opposition research.
    3. What was the lie to Congress?
    4. What was the lie to the FISA court?
    5. Boxing in a witness is not entrapment. That is literally textbook investigative questioning.
    All these things are out there and I'm sure you have dismissed all of them. I don't know that i have the energy to go through all of this with you. I will repeat, all of those things are wrong and some are even illegal. If you want to ignore them i won't bother you any more with these things.

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    Re: Liberal Losers

    Quote Originally Posted by detltu View Post
    All these things are out there and I'm sure you have dismissed all of them. I don't know that i have the energy to go through all of this with you. I will repeat, all of those things are wrong and some are even illegal. If you want to ignore them i won't bother you any more with these things.
    Just looking for the specific facts that are of concern.

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    Re: Liberal Losers

    I don’t follow the propaganda so it is possible I missed something new.

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    Re: Liberal Losers

    This is pulled from the DOJs motion to dismiss the Flynn case where they cited Sally Yates testimony under oath the the SCO. (Sorry had to make multiple posts as it was too big for one post)
    So Comey, Brennan, Clapper, Rice and Yates were present for a January 5th meeting with Obama. They were subsequently dismissed but Obama asked only Yates and Comey to stay behind.


    Compare that to Rice's memo where she notes that she and Biden were present for this meeting


    So today we find out that Obama's White House Counsel directed Susan Rice memorialize a meeting that she wasn't a part of. Why did she say she was part of this meeting? Who gave her the information on this meeting? Was she directed to include the "by the book" verbiage?

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    Re: Liberal Losers

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    I don’t follow the propaganda so it is possible I missed something new.
    Here's what the left is saying...

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/20/polit...ynn/index.html


    Here's what happened...

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/19/michael-flynn-full-susan-rice-email-sent-on-trumps-inauguration-day-267998



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