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    NATO

    Are the liberal socialists upset about Germany buying a fossil fuel from Putin?
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    Re: NATO

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Are the liberal socialists upset about Germany buying a fossil fuel from Putin?
    Nah....I bet 99.9% didn't even know about it.
    Trump is hitting them hard just like America should have done decades ago. GO TRUMP!!! Heck, I started a thread about "Get us out of the UN" so let's do that as well as ditch NATO ,until they all pay up, for all I care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Nah....I bet 99.9% didn't even know about it.
    Trump is hitting them hard just like America should have done decades ago. GO TRUMP!!! Heck, I started a thread about "Get us out of the UN" so let's do that as well as ditch NATO ,until they all pay up, for all I care.
    CNN is reporting that Germany is paying the full and new amount Obama and Merkel decided to pay. Germany still isn't paying the 2% GDP they were supposed to be paying before the "new deal".
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    Re: NATO

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Are the liberal socialists upset about Germany buying a fossil fuel from Putin?
    https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/PET_MOV...NRS_MBBL_M.htm

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    Re: NATO

    Your point? We don't import natural gas from them, which was at issue here.

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    Re: NATO

    Quote Originally Posted by atobulldog View Post
    Your point? We don't import natural gas from them, which was at issue here.
    I haven’t been watching FoxNews so I don’t know what the issue is. But pawdawg seemed to be objecting to Germany buying a “fossil fuel”, which we do as well.

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    Re: NATO

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    I haven’t been watching FoxNews so I don’t know what the issue is. But pawdawg seemed to be objecting to Germany buying a “fossil fuel”, which we do as well.
    I love fossil fuel. Your people normally hate 'em. Suddenly it's ok for the Germs to become dependent on your most hated nation. You are such a liberal
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    Re: NATO

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    I love fossil fuel. Your people normally hate 'em. Suddenly it's ok for the Germs to become dependent on your most hated nation. You are such a liberal
    I work in the fossil fuel industry. I am not particularly concerned about who Germany is dependent upon, but it is stupid to attack allies leading up to a summit with Putin as it increases instability in the region particularly to countries that are vulnerable and rely on a strong NATO to discourage Russian aggression. Those countries are sleeping a little less easy tonight.

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    Re: NATO

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    I am not particularly concerned about who Germany is dependent upon, but it is stupid to attack allies leading up to a summit with Putin as it increases instability in the region particularly to countries that are vulnerable and rely on a strong NATO to discourage Russian aggression. Those countries are sleeping a little less easy tonight.
    Well, a strong NATO is a well funded NATO. Perhaps they should put their money where their mouth is.

    When the first horrid winter hits and Russia is angry at Germany, perhaps they will care about who they are depending on when the pipeline suddenly runs dry. Seems like they are setting themselves up to be Russia's bitch.

    Sleeping well is a function of good planning. When you don't properly fund your own future and security, sleep is not something you can afford.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow View Post
    Well, a strong NATO is a well funded NATO. Perhaps they should put their money where their mouth is.

    When the first horrid winter hits and Russia is angry at Germany, perhaps they will care about who they are depending on when the pipeline suddenly runs dry. Seems like they are setting themselves up to be Russia's bitch.

    Sleeping well is a function of good planning. When you don't properly fund your own future and security, sleep is not something you can afford.
    Germany’s “dependence” on Russian gas is overblown by our blowhard POTUS. They get about 35% of their gas from Russia. It is cheap - cheaper than Norway gas - so why wouldn’t they?

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    Re: NATO

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    I haven’t been watching FoxNews so I don’t know what the issue is. But pawdawg seemed to be objecting to Germany buying a “fossil fuel”, which we do as well.
    Your main problem as always!!

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    Re: NATO

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Germany’s “dependence” on Russian gas is overblown by our blowhard POTUS. They get about 35% of their gas from Russia. It is cheap - cheaper than Norway gas - so why wouldn’t they?


    They are about to have 70% of their gas from Russia when the pipeline gets finished. And it's natural gas..... to power virtually everything over there which is the way most of Europe is headed!

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    Anti-Trump protest in Brussels expected THOUSANDS, got DOZENS...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post


    They are about to have 70% of their gas from Russia when the pipeline gets finished. And it's natural gas..... to power virtually everything over there which is the way most of Europe is headed!

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    Anti-Trump protest in Brussels expected THOUSANDS, got DOZENS...
    You don’t get to pick where the resources are located. By far, most of the proven natural gas reserves are located in Russia, Iran and Qatar.

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    Re: NATO

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    You don’t get to pick where the resources are located. By far, most of the proven natural gas reserves are located in Russia, Iran and Qatar.
    The point President Trump made is that Germany is buying energy from the very nation that they want the USA to pay to protect it from. That's total BS and we should stop funding the defense of Europe today. We're $20 trillion in debt (not counting unfunded liabilities). What makes anyone think we can afford to fund ANYTHING for ANYBODY?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brtransplant View Post
    The point President Trump made is that Germany is buying energy from the very nation that they want the USA to pay to protect it from. That's total BS and we should stop funding the defense of Europe today. We're $20 trillion in debt (not counting unfunded liabilities). What makes anyone think we can afford to fund ANYTHING for ANYBODY?
    We keep bases in these countries because we would rather fight wars in foreign theaters than at home or in our backyard.

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