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    Re: Isis Assassin Arrested in Sanctuary State

    Why didn't the Nazi guard, deported today, seek shelter in a sanctuary city? I'm certain his fellow Nazis aka democraps would have come to his aid and hid him from ICE. Kudos to President Trump for spearheading this guy, now 97, being deported. He is the 67th such former Nazi kicked out of the country over the years and decades. So, yeah, other prezzes have also presided over such deportations. But, this guy had survived for 13 years in New York, resisting other weak-azz efforts of deportation. Every day for the past 13 years members of the Jewish community, in Queens, held protests outside of his apartment. Trump said, enough is enough and convinced Germany to take the guy back. Done.

    And, yes, before one the me-tooers chimes in, efforts to identify this guy as a former Nazi and then do the deportation "paper work" is thanks to a bi-partisan Congressional effort over the years. But, it took Trump speaking to the Germans to finally get it done.

    Since some of you, and you know who you are, and so do we, claim Trump is Hitler-like and a neo-Nazi, why didn't he grant this fellow a Presidential pardon and say, look, he's 97...he'll be dead soon?

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    Re: Isis Assassin Arrested in Sanctuary State

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    “What the law does: It prohibits alerting federal immigration agents of an inmate’s release from a county jail — unless the information is already available to the public, or if the person has been convicted of any of the 800 offenses outlined in a 2013 state law, the Trust Act.

    That list includes serious or violent felonies, arson, registered sex offenses and domestic violence. Many other crimes are on the list, including nonviolent drug charges and “wobblers,” criminal offenses that can be charged under California law as a felony or misdemeanor. In those cases, cooperation with federal immigration officials is allowed.

    The sanctuary law also permits state prison officials to continue working with federal immigration agents on deportations — a key concession Brown demanded — and immigration agents are still allowed to enter county jails to question immigrants.”

    http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-p...htmlstory.html
    I'll be honest, I don't really see a big problem with this unless they are refusing to cooperate even under these conditions. I do notice that the wording says cooperation is allowed and not required.
    Just doing some quick searching it looks like San Francisco is more restrictive on cooperation. It looks like they can only cooperate with ICE if the person has past violent felony convictions and current violent felony charges.

    Sounds like not all sanctuary cities are created equal maybe.

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    Re: Isis Assassin Arrested in Sanctuary State

    Trump is more concerned about persecuting Muslims and Mexicans. The white supremacists are just part of his base he coddles up to.

    This guy was ordered to be deported in 2004 when his US citizenship was revoked but Europe wouldn’t take him back then. Don’t know if Germany was an option or if they were one of the countries that refused then.

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    Re: Isis Assassin Arrested in Sanctuary State

    Quote Originally Posted by detltu View Post
    I'll be honest, I don't really see a big problem with this unless they are refusing to cooperate even under these conditions. I do notice that the wording says cooperation is allowed and not required.
    Just doing some quick searching it looks like San Francisco is more restrictive on cooperation. It looks like they can only cooperate with ICE if the person has past violent felony convictions and current violent felony charges.

    Sounds like not all sanctuary cities are created equal maybe.
    I suspect that it would be hard to find a city that would want to protect a violent offender absent some very special circumstances for that offender.

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    Re: Isis Assassin Arrested in Sanctuary State

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    I suspect that it would be hard to find a city that would want to protect a violent offender absent some very special circumstances for that offender.
    From my read of the San Francisco ordinance, they wouldn't cooperate with ICE if the person has past violent convictions but is only being charged with a non-violent crime. Similarly they wouldn't cooperate if the person has past drug convictions but is currently charged with a violent crime. I have a hard time getting behind that.

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    Re: Isis Assassin Arrested in Sanctuary State

    Quote Originally Posted by detltu View Post
    From my read of the San Francisco ordinance, they wouldn't cooperate with ICE if the person has past violent convictions but is only being charged with a non-violent crime. Similarly they wouldn't cooperate if the person has past drug convictions but is currently charged with a violent crime. I have a hard time getting behind that.
    Would you rather see a violent criminal deported or brought to justice in US courts?

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    Re: Isis Assassin Arrested in Sanctuary State

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Would you rather see a violent criminal deported or brought to justice in US courts?
    In general, deported. Since they can easily get back into the US it's debatable.

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    Re: Isis Assassin Arrested in Sanctuary State

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Would you rather see a violent criminal deported or brought to justice in US courts?
    Executed, on the spot.

    That missing woman in Iowa was murdered by.....wait for it...an illegal immigrant. Gee, I am shocked!

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    Re: Isis Assassin Arrested in Sanctuary State

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Executed, on the spot.

    That missing woman in Iowa was murdered by.....wait for it...an illegal immigrant. Gee, I am shocked!
    Meanwhile a woman and two daughters were killed in Colorado by a white citizen.

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    Re: Isis Assassin Arrested in Sanctuary State

    Quote Originally Posted by detltu View Post
    In general, deported. Since they can easily get back into the US it's debatable.
    What if he killed your wife or child? Deported or tried in US courts?

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    Re: Isis Assassin Arrested in Sanctuary State

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Meanwhile a woman and two daughters were killed in Colorado by a white citizen.
    That's right, true. Well, there ya go...I now declare illegal immigrants are free to rape and murder and do anything they damn well please. Because, after all...

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    Re: Isis Assassin Arrested in Sanctuary State

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Meanwhile a woman and two daughters were killed in Colorado by a white citizen.
    Guess you do not see any difference between the two suspects do you?

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    Re: Isis Assassin Arrested in Sanctuary State

    Quote Originally Posted by FriscoDog View Post
    Guess you do not see any difference between the two suspects do you?
    Well, one killed three people and was here legally and the other killed one and was here illegally. Are they deporting him or planning on trying him for murder in the US?

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    Re: Isis Assassin Arrested in Sanctuary State

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    That's right, true. Well, there ya go...I now declare illegal immigrants are free to rape and murder and do anything they damn well please. Because, after all...
    If that were true, why did they arrest him?

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    Re: Isis Assassin Arrested in Sanctuary State

    And for all those stories where someone blames illegal immigration for the victimization of someone by an illegal, there are also stories where Americans are thankful that a person in the country illegally came to the rescue:

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/illegal...uardian-angel/

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...ticle-1.951239


    https://www.miamiherald.com/news/loc...e18631896.html


    But focusing on any specific case misses the larger point that people that are here illegally are less likely to commit a violent crime than American citizens. Thus, you are safer having them as your next door neighbor than Joe 6-pack,

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