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    Re: Travesty unfolding in Kavanaugh Hearing

    But Christopher Wray is talking to the Senate Committee this
    morning so we will have something more “official” soon pertaining to the investigation.

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    Re: Travesty unfolding in Kavanaugh Hearing

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    But the most indicative feature that he doesn’t respect women is his own party affiliation and age.

    I was going to rebut your points, but I think this statement sums up why you wouldn't consider other viewpoints.
    I think this sums up the tactic of the left that is most damaging to their cause.

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    Quote Originally Posted by detltu View Post
    I was going to rebut your points, but I think this statement sums up why you wouldn't consider other viewpoints.
    I think this sums up the tactic of the left that is most damaging to their cause.
    Yes, the socialist assume that ALL women are or should be non-Christian, pro-abortion, anti-gun, and they think like Hillary, Maxine, and Ashley Judd.

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    Re: Travesty unfolding in Kavanaugh Hearing

    Quote Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow View Post

    I did not vote for Trump the first time around because I thought he was all mouth and no substance. I thought the Dems would have him in their corner by now and he, too, would govern against the wishes of those that elected him. I was wrong.
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    Good stuff. I didn’t vote for Trump either. However, he has won me over. He has taken the Democratic approach to politics and used it against them, and they can’t stand it. I think that maybe, hopefully, it’s beginning to rub off on some of these other spineless RINOs that we’ve been dealing with the last 20+ years. Who would have ever thought you would hear Graham talk like that? Not me
    #METOO I didn't vote for him and I still don't like some of the things he does, but I find myself constantly defending him because most of the people who attack him are so over the top. Also he has frankly done a much better job than I ever would have guessed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by detltu View Post
    Also he has frankly done a much better job than I ever would have guessed.
    It is nice to have a non-politician in office who tries to do what he ran on. He'd have even more done by now if he had some help from the RINOs.

    I love it when people like George Will get their girl panties in a wad.

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    Re: Travesty unfolding in Kavanaugh Hearing

    Quote Originally Posted by detltu View Post
    I was going to rebut your points, but I think this statement sums up why you wouldn't consider other viewpoints.
    I think this sums up the tactic of the left that is most damaging to their cause.
    I don’t care about the left or their cause, but the right needs to clean up their act. The fact that 54% of Republicans think that Kavanaugh should be confirmed even if the allegations are true tells you what is wrong with this country.

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    Re: Travesty unfolding in Kavanaugh Hearing

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    I don’t care about the left or their cause, but the right needs to clean up their act. The fact that 54% of Republicans think that Kavanaugh should be confirmed even if the allegations are true tells you what is wrong with this country.
    And that also explains why the other Republicans need to believe he didn’t do it (even the Collins-type that will say they believe the victim except for the part that the victim is 100% sure of), because the very real possibility that he did doesn’t square very well with their desire to have him on the SC and/or to let the Dems win a partisan battle.

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    Re: Travesty unfolding in Kavanaugh Hearing

    Pelosi was addressing a media gathering and admitted to the left's tactic of making up stuff, "smearing", and then being able to point to the lies after the lib media reports it, with a "see, it must be true if the media is reporting it." She called it a "wrap-up smear tactic."

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    Re: Travesty unfolding in Kavanaugh Hearing

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    I don’t care about the left or their cause, but the right needs to clean up their act. The fact that 54% of Republicans think that Kavanaugh should be confirmed even if the allegations are true tells you what is wrong with this country.
    I guess it depends on the details of that 54%.

    I don't think it is unreasonable to say that something like this that happened in high school should not disqualify someone for the Supreme court 30 years later.
    Assuming the events happened as Dr. Ford said, sexual assault is a serious issue and should certainly be considered towards his character. People do change and they should be allowed to. If it happened he would need to convince people that the person he was in high school doesn't represent who he is now. This disregards potential perjury charges and the complete contradiction with the person he presented in the interview on Fox News (I haven't actually seen that interview). Factor in potential perjury and a false presentation of who he was in high school and I would say he shouldn't be allowed on the supreme court if the allegations are true. But give me a yes or no choice on this question I would consider saying yes.

    If they are including all of the allegations (including the gang rape charges) then I'm with you. That is unacceptable and I don't know how you can justify it.

    I honestly don't know how the poll was conducted though.

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    Re: Travesty unfolding in Kavanaugh Hearing

    What's the point of doing a hypothetical when we already know the truth?

    Move on...people.

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    Re: Travesty unfolding in Kavanaugh Hearing

    Quote Originally Posted by detltu View Post
    I guess it depends on the details of that 54%.

    I don't think it is unreasonable to say that something like this that happened in high school should not disqualify someone for the Supreme court 30 years later.
    Assuming the events happened as Dr. Ford said, sexual assault is a serious issue and should certainly be considered towards his character. People do change and they should be allowed to. If it happened he would need to convince people that the person he was in high school doesn't represent who he is now. This disregards potential perjury charges and the complete contradiction with the person he presented in the interview on Fox News (I haven't actually seen that interview). Factor in potential perjury and a false presentation of who he was in high school and I would say he shouldn't be allowed on the supreme court if the allegations are true. But give me a yes or no choice on this question I would consider saying yes.

    If they are including all of the allegations (including the gang rape charges) then I'm with you. That is unacceptable and I don't know how you can justify it.

    I honestly don't know how the poll was conducted though.
    If Ford’s allegations are true that means that he is lying about it today. Why would 54% of Republicans believe that someone who is presently lying about a sexual assault, even from high school, be confirmed to the SC?

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    Re: Travesty unfolding in Kavanaugh Hearing

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    What's the point of doing a hypothetical when we already know the truth?

    Move on...people.
    I don't know that we will ever know the truth on this. If the democrats don't take control and impeach I suppose this issue will die.

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    Re: Travesty unfolding in Kavanaugh Hearing

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    What's the point of doing a hypothetical when we already know the truth?

    Move on...people.
    Just examining the heart and soul of the Republican Party. It is quite nasty, but what else would expect of the Party of Trump.

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    Re: Travesty unfolding in Kavanaugh Hearing

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Just examining the heart and soul of the Republican Party. It is quite nasty, but what else would expect of the Party of Trump.
    your moral compass is a quandry

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    Re: Travesty unfolding in Kavanaugh Hearing

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    If Ford’s allegations are true that means that he is lying about it today. Why would 54% of Republicans believe that someone who is presently lying about a sexual assault, even from high school, be confirmed to the SC?
    I think I covered that, but maybe it wasn't clear. I think you touched on it. If the allegations were true, the lying would be the more pressing issue because it happened as an adult and during the confirmation hearings and under oath.

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