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PD I wasn't saying you were lying. I really did want to see pictures. From what I saw on TV it looked like about 17000 to 18000. Full down low on the sw cornerr (family) and empty on the nw corner. East side looked about the same except the two bands filled in the lower section on either end. Twenty two thousand sounds high to me, too.
Curious and serious question... Why is everyone so hung up on 'actual' attendance when the official reportable number is tickets sold and that is what everyone reports?
Is it just something to debate and argue over?
Yes. It's called "attendance ball", and it's silly. Just in the last 2 pages we've seen guesses between 15K (by Tech52) and 23K (by PD, the official count, etc..). That's quite a stretch for such a small crowd. Somebody's certainly wrong. I just don't understand what people like Tech52 gain from under-reporting their own team's home crowd attendance. Why would anybody do that?Originally Posted by RGTech98
I'm not a big stickler on attendance, but actual attendance is critical for growing our program.
People who buy tickets but then skip the game are great. They help fund the program. That being said, only butts in seats help make a fun gameday atmosphere.
For us to judge the effectiveness of our athletic department and marketing campaigns, we need to track sales AND actual attendance.
I mean, I was more focused on the game. I’m not under-reporting purposefully to put us down. It could very well be a couple thousand more than that. Im just giving a pretty conservative estimate.
I was satisfied with the crowd considering the weather threat. Student/ young alumni section was decent.
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It feels like when we do it we are still comparing ourselves to ULM... 'at least we have more than them'.
I said somewhere on here a couple of years ago that I would rather have a sellout crowd for $15 a ticket than half the crowd at $30 a ticket. Which my point was a simple marketing one, find the price point that fills the stadium...and I know it is more than price but also the finickiness of the common fan to be entertained.
Is it enough to win any game we play by 3 points even if that score is 20-17? Or do we we need to hang 40+ points on the board to entertain the fans that will show up?
I think Coach Holtz will prove that winning alone won't do it, but you must also entertain with high octane offense. This actually isn't a disparaging accusation against the coach but much more against the fans. And I know his winning record in JAS has not set a record but we have went to and won 4 straight bowl games - even if there are more of them.
Dancy only had 7 touches (5 rush) totaling 76 yards and 2 TDs. Last week 16 touches (15 rush), 146 yards, 2 TDs. Very nice numbers. He is quick and sneaky. He should have a lot in the tank for conference competition.
Still can't believe he is on kickoff return though. Surely there are other non-starters who can catch a kickoff and take that beating.
I do prefer Tucker to take some of the between-the-tackles carries and hits as long as he can hold onto the ball.
Can't understand why we ever have McKnight running east-west. Henderson seems more useful than McKnight as a 3rd RB. Put McKnight back to doing his WR thing.
Kam is a bust as RB. He needs to be a TE-WR-FL kind of player. He could line up in the backfield, but then be used as a blocker, because he is big, and also sneak out as a pass receiver. On occasion, you could pop him as ball carrier, if for no other reason to keep the opposition honest. But, NO east-west!! He is too slow. Quick hitters, straight-ahead will work.
I said last year our two go-to guys should have been Boston and Kam. Kam as a TE in the short to mid-range passing. Well, I'll say it again this year for Kam...he needs to be a TE-WR-FL type. We are wasting his talents.
Our running scheme demands a really quick first step. I'm not sure he's fast enough (said the same about Craft). Not sure where he fits, but he's put his time in. Let's put him in a position to succeed.
Time is your friend. Impulse is your enemy. -John Bogle
Yep, Craft was a half-step too slow. Good RB, but speed, quickness matters a lot.
Kam can best serve us, and himself, as a TE-type player. He can catch the ball, and with his running ability he will get lots of YAC. But, I don't think Holtz knows what a TE is. Need to show him some YouTube footage of great TEs, like the ones playing in the NFL today. Oh, let's see, the Patriots, only the best organization in all of football, employs a TE, Gronk. If they do it, then...
Can't blame them for that.
I'm not everyone, but I'm hung up on it because our AD has shown a pattern of reporting MUCH higher than actual attendance in every sport. He does it to save face. He realizes he is inept and refuses to properly market what should be a BOOMING program. Back in the day, I think we stretched numbers, but not nearly to the extreme we do now.
Kam lacks overall acceleration. I agree we should look at using him in a TE capacity. We should utilize his height.
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