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    9/29: @UNT Game

    LA Tech still needs a high quality win in 2018. UNT is currently 4-0, with lopsided wins over the following:

    UNT 46, SMU 23
    UNT 58, Incarnate Word 16
    UNT 44, @ Arkansas 17
    UNT 47, @ Liberty 7

    UNT has a very strong passing game. The Mean Green have a 5'11, 185 lb Junior QB (Mason Fine) that is tearing it up. YTD, Mason Fine is 105 of 162 (64.8%) pass attempts for 1,328 yds and 10 TD's, against only 1 INT. He's averaging 346 yds per game in passing yds. However, remember that Fine only payed partial games against SMU and IW, due to the lopsided outcomes. Had he played full games, his stats would likely be even more padded.

    Without this kid (Fine), UNT would be a very different ball club. He's a gamer. A scrapper. In basketball, they call a guy like this a "gym rat". He's everywhere on UNT's offense, and he's their heart and soul. And yes, Fine will tuck the ball and run it. And he won't finish his runs with an "electric slide" like J'Mar. Fine is probably the best QB LA Tech will face the rest of the year, Miss St included.

    Fine does a great job of spreading his passes around, particularly to 4 quality receivers. These 4 talented receivers include Rico Bussey (24 catches for 303 yds), Jalen Guyton (18 catches for 282 yds), Jaelon Darden (17 catches for 243 yds) and Kelvin Smith (14 catches for 148 yds).

    UNT's rush game is less intimidating, averaging only 165 yds per game. Considering the level of competition they've played so far, that's not very much.

    UNT is a very dangerous team. So the Bulldogs need to show up early and often this Saturday in Denton.

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    Re: 9/29: @ unt

    But does anyone think they're as good as LSU? This happened back in the 00's when, after we lost to Tennessee (no. 1 at the time) and Miami (previous national champs), we played number 17 Fresno State and beat them. Of course that was in Ruston.

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    Re: 9/29: @UNT Game

    It's not a question of they being better than LSU...

    two guys are out for hike and come across a hungry grizzly bear. One guy says to other, I don't have to outrun the bear, I only have to outrun you!

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    Re: 9/29: @UNT Game

    UNT will be tested this weekend. I don't read a lot into the Arkansas win. Ark is having problems at QB. SMU lost their HC, like Ark they are trying to get their program together. Incarnate and Liberty were easy wins. UNT hasn't been tested yet.

    UNT will be knocked down to reality this weekend.

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    Re: 9/29: @UNT Game

    Quote Originally Posted by qng001 View Post
    UNT will be tested this weekend. I don't read a lot into the Arkansas win. Ark is having problems at QB. SMU lost their HC, like Ark they are trying to get their program together. Incarnate and Liberty were easy wins. UNT hasn't been tested yet.

    UNT will be knocked down to reality this weekend.
    I’m not that confident.

    Mason Fine is the type of QB that gives us fits. If we don’t get pressure it will be a long day.

    And I don’t have that much confidence in Holtz and his game planning or game preparation.

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    Re: 9/29: @UNT Game

    Remember when we had top ten passing offenses and how teams would beat us? Blitz, blitz, blitz and then run the ball down their throat to control the clock. This game is gift wrapped for Jaylon and the secondary.

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    Re: 9/29: @UNT Game

    This is the western C-USA championship.

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    Re: 9/29: @UNT Game

    Tech vs UNT Stats Averages

    Points Per Game 35.0 48.8
    Points Allowed Per Game 27.0 15.8
    Total Yards 490.0 510.8
    Yards Passing 322.0 345.3
    Yards Rushing 168.0 165.5
    Yards Allowed 334.3 308.0
    Pass Yards Allowed 166.0 209.0
    Rush Yards Allowed 168.3 99.0

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    Re: 9/29: @UNT Game

    Kinda even when you consider the opposition.

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    Re: 9/29: @UNT Game

    We are +8. Embarrassing...

    A team with a 6th year HC is an 8pt dog to a team that was HORRIBLE 3 years ago.

    Vegas knows

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    Re: 9/29: @UNT Game

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    We are +8. Embarrassing...

    A team with a 6th year HC is an 8pt dog to a team that was HORRIBLE 3 years ago.

    Vegas knows
    The odds reflect September 29, 2018....not 2015

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    Re: 9/29: @UNT Game

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    The odds reflect September 29, 2018....not 2015
    My logic reflects what the odd were 3 years ago when UNT was horrible and we were up and coming.

    Since then, we've flat lined and UNT has gotten better or passed us by.

    That speaks to our lack of coaching, recruiting, and the complacency of our leaders.

    Vegas knows.

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    Re: 9/29: @UNT Game

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    My logic reflects what the odd were 3 years ago when UNT was horrible and we were up and coming.

    Since then, we've flat lined and UNT has gotten better or passed us by.

    That speaks to our lack of coaching, recruiting, and the complacency of our leaders.

    Vegas knows.
    I don't know enough about UNT's real circumstances to comment. So, instead, I'll pose some questions. Is this 2018 UNT team a senior-laden squad and next year, they'll struggle to go 4-8? They were good last year, insomuch they won the west and bowled, and all of that. If they were primarily a junior level team, it would make sense that this would be an even better year for them. If that is true, then they're a flash in the pan.

    But, if this a preview or coming attractions and next year they'll be even better, etc...then, yes, they have passed us by and I agree, shame on us.

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    Re: 9/29: @UNT Game

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    My logic reflects what the odd were 3 years ago when UNT was horrible and we were up and coming.

    Since then, we've flat lined and UNT has gotten better or passed us by.

    That speaks to our lack of coaching, recruiting, and the complacency of our leaders.

    Vegas knows.
    this is where I would usually make some snarky comment but you drove to game and supported Tech. this is where I will disagree, politely, that recruiting has been rather spectacular, we are loading up on 3 star recruits for future since Holtz arrived and
    gotta believe deep down you knew we had shot and winning because of Holtz recruits
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    Re: 9/29: @UNT Game

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    We are +8. Embarrassing...

    A team with a 6th year HC is an 8pt dog to a team that was HORRIBLE 3 years ago.

    Vegas knows
    VEGAS does know how to sucker ill informed gamblers. Still feel good that Vegas has created a line that gets betters in on NTS-- they expect Tech to beat the line and they make a lot of money --

    PawDawg is ignoring history of this matchup-- NTS was overwhelming pick for division champ and we won it both times-- they took it last year and preseason we were the pick. 4 of last 5 divison title was split between us. Good grief-- Holtz turned it around in year 2 -- new coach-new talent for NT and he seems shocked that they made giant improvement in program-- of course I would be in hospital if he said something positive about our team. who gives a s.... about Vegas line when their job is to get you to pick wrong team - Will NT win if they get 3 picks-- probably yes but I am pulling for for us -Nt is averaging 2.5 picks per game (10 after 4 games) and after the LSU game I am feeling solid about our chances .. yeah-I am the Sunshine Pumper but it beats whining all the time and assuming we are going to lose .. not me and if I am wrong at least I never give up on our guys ...

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