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    Re: Itís time. What will it cost?

    Some may be happy that we finally have a coach that truly loves Ruston. I never understood why people got upset when coaches left. We are a stepping stone. Look at UCF and Boise. Yes, those guys played in BCS/Access Bowls, but they still left to something bigger. Rather have someone trying to prove something than someone that is content.

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    Re: Itís time. What will it cost?

    Quote Originally Posted by rabiddawg View Post
    Holtz has run his course. He has done better than I expected but, this program is stuck in the mud.


    So what is it gonna cost in $ to fire him and hire a coach that wants to win?
    Man, you are overreacting.

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    Re: Itís time. What will it cost?

    Quote Originally Posted by stodgdog View Post
    Man, you are overreacting.
    There needs to be some kind of reaction SD, Tonight was a good example of how we are settling for mediocrity. No offense intended to anyone, but we have a program with no leadership on or off the field, no chemistry, and no desire to be the best program in the state. I believe it starts at Tmac's office.
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    Re: Itís time. What will it cost?

    I thought long and hard about this before posting. I didnít want to post when I was mad and say something I later regretted. Iím done spending any more money on Tech football while Holtz or TMac are in their current positions. Holtz is a good guy, but he has no business being the head coach here. Every year itís the same ole $hit. Success with Holtz is a mirage, you can see it but you never reach it. Next year is always the year. A conference championship will NEVER HAPPEN under Holtz leadership.

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    Re: Itís time. What will it cost?

    Quote Originally Posted by SicemDawgz View Post
    I thought long and hard about this before posting. I didn’t want to post when I was mad and say something I later regretted. I’m done spending any more money on Tech football while Holtz or TMac are in their current positions. Holtz is a good guy, but he has no business being the head coach here. Every year it’s the same ole $hit. Success with Holtz is a mirage, you can see it but you never reach it. Next year is always the year. A conference championship will NEVER HAPPEN under Holtz leadership.
    He destroyed USF, losing there while everyone else who ever coached there won big! Now we have to esttle for never winning a CUSA championship, even though CUSA sucks.

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    Re: Itís time. What will it cost?

    As much as we want Coach Holtz out, it's not going to happen. I would hope that at the very least, pressure would be put on him to turn over the play calling duties to someone else.

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    Re: Itís time. What will it cost?

    I wonder if USM regrets running Bower?

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    Re: Itís time. What will it cost?

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    I wonder if USM regrets running Bower?
    Holtz is no Bower. He has an embarrassing home loss every year. 2013, that whole year was crap highlighted by Tulane. 2014, beat at home by an FCS. 2015, skulldrug by his daddy Southern Miss. 2016, what do you know, we didnít lose a home game. 2017, who didnít beat us? 2018, smoked by CUAB. What coach worth his salt gets beat like that every year at home?

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    Re: Itís time. What will it cost?

    You need to go back and look at the circumstances around Bowerís firing.

    I donít propose to know the answer to my original question, but itís something to consider.

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    Re: Itís time. What will it cost?

    Quote Originally Posted by stodgdog View Post
    Man, you are overreacting.
    UAB wasn’t even playing football two years ago. Tech has lost to them two years in a row.

    Tech struggles to compete in arguably the worst G5 conference.

    I could go on and on.

    You have embraced the suck.

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    Re: Itís time. What will it cost?

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    You need to go back and look at the circumstances around Bowerís firing.

    I donít propose to know the answer to my original question, but itís something to consider.
    Bower won four conference championships and played in a fifth title game...Skip has had the Dawgs in 2 championship games and lost both.

    We have played in 4 straight bowl games....is that enough to grow a fan base and create interest in the program?

    Sounds like a lot of loyal, die hard fans are losing interest quickly.

    Fans want to see continual improvement, looks like we have plateaued under Holtz.

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    Re: Itís time. What will it cost?

    Championships! That's what grows a fanbase and grows a program. The bowl wins are great. They add to a program's resume'. ESPN makes sure the whole nation can see your team play in a bowl. All good things. But when 80 out of 132 teams bowl, some with losing records, many at 6-6 (like us last year) it kind of taints the whole thing.

    Winning your conference has to be the #1 goal every year. Only ONE team can claim a conference title each year. JUST ONE! Heck, 5 or maybe even 6 CUSA teams will bowl every year. But only ONE will do so as conference champ! Looks like that honor will be between MTSU and UAB this year. Yeah, I know, there's a lot of football left. But those two are sitting in the driver seats.

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    Re: Itís time. What will it cost?

    I tried to get an old friend who graduated from Tech around the same time as I to joint me at a Tech football game, but he politely declined. I asked him why because he used to never miss a home game and also traveled to maybe a couple of away games each season. He told me that about ten years after he graduated, Tech lost a game on the road after leading most of the game and it upset him and put him in such a bad mood to the point that his wife asked him why he continued to put himself and their family through it. And said he told her she had a good point and from that day forward he stopped following Tech altogether and “life was better”.

    I told him he could probably benefit from some professional psychiatric help. He laughed and agreed but still wasn’t interested in coming to the game. I sincerely hope that couldn’t happen to many other fans that are as dedicated as my buddy once was.

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    Re: Itís time. What will it cost?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChipDog View Post
    I tried to get an old friend who graduated from Tech around the same time as I to joint me at a Tech football game, but he politely declined. I asked him why because he used to never miss a home game and also traveled to maybe a couple of away games each season. He told me that about ten years after he graduated, Tech lost a game on the road after leading most of the game and it upset him and put him in such a bad mood to the point that his wife asked him why he continued to put himself and their family through it. And said he told her she had a good point and from that day forward he stopped following Tech altogether and ďlife was betterĒ.

    I told him he could probably benefit from some professional psychiatric help. He laughed and agreed but still wasnít interested in coming to the game. I sincerely hope that couldnít happen to many other fans that are as dedicated as my buddy once was.
    Your friendís story sounds exactly like my story. I will admit it is a personal problem and the easy solution is to back away. Thatís what I have done and so have a lot of others. However, I will never jump to another team. I tellthose friends ďroll tideĒ just to piss them off.

    If I were a player, I could not play for a coach with Skipís personality. I would need a coach that balances being fired up or cool as a cucumber. Skip lacks emotion, intensity and sense of urgency and it trickles down thru the team. I canít deal with that.

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    Re: Itís time. What will it cost?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Dawg View Post
    The president shouldn't have to make these decisions. The president shouldn't have to think about athletics. That's what the AD is for.

    Unfortunately we don't have an AD.
    That guy doesnít have a clue! Does he have dirt on Guice?????? Unfortunately, itís really hard to fire people these days. Layoffs are common (donít need to tell someone they suck) so much easier. If you suck at something, you need to be let go!!!! Tommy boy sounded like a moron during the interview last night, he needs to go ASAP!!!!

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