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    Re: Khashoggi Murder

    They do what they do - murder people and everyone knows it. The guy is not a US citizen.

    If you piss in the Saudi royals in any shape, form or fashion, you will most likely die a painful death.

    He knew that and you can bet his file ain’t one of a Boy Scout.

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    Re: Khashoggi Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Germany has capitalist markets. They, along with Finland and Denmark, have stopped arms sales to Saudi Arabia. We should too.
    Germany does a lot of stupid things that we don't, and should not, do. And only you lefties gives a crap what Finland and Denmark do. What is it with you liberals and your worship of everything European? Are you all so insecure that you feel like you're naivety will somehow be validated if you earn the approval of a bunch of people who have surrendered their sovereignty to Muslim invaders? It won't be. No one respects you. Not even your heroes in Europe.

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    Re: Khashoggi Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by faninmonroe View Post
    They do what they do - murder people and everyone knows it. The guy is not a US citizen.

    If you piss in the Saudi royals in any shape, form or fashion, you will most likely die a painful death.

    He knew that and you can bet his file ain’t one of a Boy Scout.
    Under the Magnitsky Act, the president can pass sanctions when a foreign government is “responsible for extrajudicial killings, torture, or other gross violations of human rights.” That would apply here.

    Besides, Khashoggi was a lawful resident of the US and his kids are US citizens. He worked for a US paper and was killed precisely for exercising American values.

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    Re: Khashoggi Murder

    You didn't seem so indignant over this one...

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    Re: Khashoggi Murder

    Did a foreign government kill him?

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    Re: Khashoggi Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Did a foreign government kill him?
    No Obama and Clinton did
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    Re: Khashoggi Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    No Obama and Clinton did
    Well, it was investigated a few times and while they might have some responsibility for security lapses, it is hardly the same thing as ordering someone to be killed. Or do you also blame W for 9/11?

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    Re: Khashoggi Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Under the Magnitsky Act, the president can pass sanctions when a foreign government is “responsible for extrajudicial killings, torture, or other gross violations of human rights.” That would apply here.

    Besides, Khashoggi was a lawful resident of the US and his kids are US citizens. He worked for a US paper and was killed precisely for exercising American values.
    The Magnitsky Act only requires the president to investigate and determine if a foreign person is responsible for Khashoggi’s death within 120 days of a trigger by the Senate.

    As for Khashoggi, he wasn't in the US and was a Saudi citizen killed in the Saudi consulate in Turkey. He may have been exercising American values, but such values carry little value in the Muslim world...and he knew that. It is almost as if he had a death wish!
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    Re: Khashoggi Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Germany has capitalist markets. They, along with Finland and Denmark, have stopped arms sales to Saudi Arabia. We should too.
    No worries, they would just buy them from Russia. Russia would LOVE to have more influence in SA for oil.

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    Re: Khashoggi Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by FriscoDog View Post
    No worries, they would just buy them from Russia. Russia would LOVE to have more influence in SA for oil.
    So?

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    Re: Khashoggi Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by CARTEK View Post
    The Magnitsky Act only requires the president to investigate and determine if a foreign person is responsible for Khashoggi’s death within 120 days of a trigger by the Senate.

    As for Khashoggi, he wasn't in the US and was a Saudi citizen killed in the Saudi consulate in Turkey. He may have been exercising American values, but such values carry little value in the Muslim world...and he knew that. It is almost as if he had a death wish!
    Thanks for presenting the facts in this thread; not that they'll help with Guisslapp's issues.

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