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    Re: J知ar Smith is not the answer nor a rockstar! Bench him now

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    I’ve read a million times on this board that Elliot can do everything J’Mar can.
    Who said that? I have not read it a single time. Are you being literal again?

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    Re: J知ar Smith is not the answer nor a rockstar! Bench him now

    If Higgins doesn't get his DWI, and starts at Arkansas in 2016, who does Jack Abraham start for this Saturday?

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    Re: J知ar Smith is not the answer nor a rockstar! Bench him now

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Who said that? I have not read it a single time. Are you being literal again?
    I was being hyperbolic and I read it this morning. If you missed it, I can find it for you.

    Why do you think Holtz would be scared of J樽ar bolting? You致e asserted that Holtz knows Elliot is better.

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    Re: J知ar Smith is not the answer nor a rockstar! Bench him now

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    I was being hyperbolic and I read it this morning. If you missed it, I can find it for you.

    Why do you think Holtz would be scared of J’Mar bolting? You’ve asserted that Holtz knows Elliot is better.
    It wasn't me who said Holtz would be afraid of JMar bolting. I don't think he is worried about that, but it is another theory on why...

    I've never "asserted" Holtz knows Elliot is better. Nobody can move the ego far enough to get into Holtz' head. However it is mind boggling to consider than ANY of our backups could be worse than JMar.

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    Re: J知ar Smith is not the answer nor a rockstar! Bench him now

    Notice with a little over a minute to go with Tech up 28-13, Holtz is calling passing plays to try and pad Smiths numbers against Rice. There was no way Rice could win. All we had to do was run the ball and kick a FG to put us up 31-13 with 1 minute left to play. Against Southern, he chewed out Allen, with the exception that Allen was actually successful in scoring, while Smith threw a pick. Can someone explain that to me?

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    Re: J知ar Smith is not the answer nor a rockstar! Bench him now

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    It wasn't me who said Holtz would be afraid of JMar bolting. I don't think he is worried about that, but it is another theory on why...

    I've never "asserted" Holtz knows Elliot is better. Nobody can move the ego far enough to get into Holtz' head. However it is mind boggling to consider than ANY of our backups could be worse than JMar.
    The ego argument necessities acting to preserve ego at the detriment of the team. If Holtz doesn稚 know Elliot is better, the ego argument is toast and the less inflammatory (and frankly less fun) argument that he痴 just not very good at this aspect of his job wins the day.

    If the Holtz is afraid argument has legs, it means that he痴 pretty sure none of the back-ups can perform...which leads us back to the alternative to the ego argument.

    Where is the truth? I don稚 know. I do know that until just after our game Saturday, this team still had an outside shot at the CG, so I知 empathetic (or is it sympathetic) to anyone痴 reticence to make a big change.

    I still don稚 know why Elliot didn稚 get a shot in the last two games, but J樽ar did play better in the second half, so it痴 hard to rationally argue with the result.

    I知 just not convinced that Holtz is some boogie man who痴 destroying Tech athletics because of an off-hand comment from 2-years ago.

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    Re: J知ar Smith is not the answer nor a rockstar! Bench him now

    *necessitates

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    Re: J知ar Smith is not the answer nor a rockstar! Bench him now

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    Did you just TOTALLY MISS the point? (I guess you did.) Our outstanding 2018 receivers catch a lot more BAD PASSES from J'Mar (just look at this past weekend against Rice) than "good" passes that they drop. Keep up here.
    And? Why can稚 we fault both while appreciating what good they do? For every circus pass there is a dropped easy pass, and one or two that have turned into INTs.

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    Re: J知ar Smith is not the answer nor a rockstar! Bench him now

    Quote Originally Posted by SicemDawgz View Post
    Notice with a little over a minute to go with Tech up 28-13, Holtz is calling passing plays to try and pad Smiths numbers against Rice. There was no way Rice could win. All we had to do was run the ball and kick a FG to put us up 31-13 with 1 minute left to play. Against Southern, he chewed out Allen, with the exception that Allen was actually successful in scoring, while Smith threw a pick. Can someone explain that to me?
    It was absolutey dumb.

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    Re: J知ar Smith is not the answer nor a rockstar! Bench him now

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Why do you think Holtz would be scared of J’Mar bolting?
    I don't think it's that far fetched...

    We already know that Smith's mom and Veal's mom almost came to blows at LSU

    Could the "shielding" of J'mar from criticism and excuse mongering by Holtz been a part of the dynamic involved?

    Nothing surprises me in today's world of college athletics
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    Re: J知ar Smith is not the answer nor a rockstar! Bench him now

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden View Post
    I don't think it's that far fetched...

    We already know that Smith's mom and Veal's mom almost came to blows at LSU

    Could the "shielding" of J'mar from criticism and excuse mongering by Holtz been a part of the dynamic involved?

    Nothing surprises me in today's world of college athletics
    The shielding is OBVIOUS for anyone to see except for those blinded by staring into the sunshine.

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    Re: J知ar Smith is not the answer nor a rockstar! Bench him now

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden View Post
    I don't think it's that far fetched...

    We already know that Smith's mom and Veal's mom almost came to blows at LSU

    Could the "shielding" of J'mar from criticism and excuse mongering by Holtz been a part of the dynamic involved?

    Nothing surprises me in today's world of college athletics
    Did they get into it at LSU? I knew they did at UNT. Cops called and Tech fans stood beteeen them remainder of the game.

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    Re: J知ar Smith is not the answer nor a rockstar! Bench him now

    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    Did they get into it at LSU? I knew they did at UNT. Cops called and Tech fans stood beteeen them remainder of the game.
    I know that really shouldn't be funny, but ...

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    Re: J知ar Smith is not the answer nor a rockstar! Bench him now

    Quote Originally Posted by Champ967 View Post
    I know that really shouldn't be funny, but ...
    Yep, something about Veal’s momma yelling that her baby was destined for a spot in the NFL, and the QB was screwing it up because he couldn’t make the throws to him.

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    Re: J知ar Smith is not the answer nor a rockstar! Bench him now

    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    Did they get into it at LSU? I knew they did at UNT. Cops called and Tech fans stood beteeen them remainder of the game.
    YEP...
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