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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Rich is obviously a relative term but with the vanishing middle class, it will soon become an absolute term.

    Why should business owners pay a lower tax rate than people who work for them? That is the question.
    Richness has very little to do with income. Wealth is a gauge of richness; income is a gauge of value to an entity. You can make very little and become "rich" if you are frugal enough.

    Business owners can move their businesses wherever they wish, and they normally move to where it is most financially beneficial to them. New York made a bunch of concessions to Amazon to get their headquarters because it will be a net positive to the area. Perhaps you think they should have been run off and sent elsewhere because it's just not fair.

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    You have a problem with the facts I brought up? Republicans voted for people who are under indictment for fraud and a white supremacist. Shameless.
    Right..... and Democrat steeple voted for pure socialist Anti Americans, along with ISIS and Al-Qaeda supporters, baby haters and no borders pro-crime idiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Maybe you don’t know this, but New Jersey is one of the most tax heavy states in the country. And it just isn’t their state income tax - it is across the board. The tax code rewrite disporportionately hits states like New Jersey. A good portion of the middle class in NJ pay over 10k in state taxes.
    I know what they're taxed. I also know their political leanings. They are the ones that want more stuff, until they see the bill. Point is, they can't have both. Any Democrats including any reduction of taxes (from whatever source) invalidates their entire social and economic platform.

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Leftist misinformation

    You can't define "rich". It is a buzz word used by socialists. Middle class people own businesses as well and they are the backbone of MAGA. I know it's difficult to grasp, but they do. You ignore the fact that owners actually take the risks and own the businesses. Therefore they get to take the profits and use them the way they want. That includes a nice lifestyle, reinvesting in the business, and bonuses to valuable employees. All three have and are still happening with the tax cuts.

    Unless you've ever actually taken the risk and owned a business you would not understand the above. You obviously favor government regulations and higher taxes. Check out your voting block. See how many jobs they create outside of the government.
    This is unsustainable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Right..... and Democrat steeple voted for pure socialist Anti Americans, along with ISIS and Al-Qaeda supporters, baby haters and no borders pro-crime idiots.
    Maybe stop creating the conditions that cause Democrats to dig further into socialist principles?

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by JuBru View Post
    This is unsustainable.
    No it's been happening here for over 200 years. You are thinking of socialism
    "eye fo an eye and toof fo a toof" - Idiot in Missouri

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    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    No it's been happening here for over 200 years. You are thinking of socialism
    Businesses are not operating today the same as 200 years ago. Mostly for the better, but they can do more.

    Telling a company they should pay their employees more and executives less is not socialism. Telling them that investing in their people is investing in their business is not socialism. Telling them to treat all their employees as valuable members of their business is not socialism. All of it is good (better) capitalism.

    Using the word "socialism" against everything isn't the hammer you think it is, especially when inapplicable.

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Businesses do do that without the government mandates like the democrat socialist think are necessary. The same people who want government intervention LOVED NAFTA.
    "eye fo an eye and toof fo a toof" - Idiot in Missouri

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by JuBru View Post
    Businesses are not operating today the same as 200 years ago. Mostly for the better, but they can do more.

    Telling a company they should pay their employees more and executives less is not socialism. Telling them that investing in their people is investing in their business is not socialism. Telling them to treat all their employees as valuable members of their business is not socialism. All of it is good (better) capitalism.

    Using the word "socialism" against everything isn't the hammer you think it is, especially when inapplicable.
    Who is this "telling" a company anything? Unless it's the shareholders STFU! No one else has ANY right to tell a company anything.

    Now, that said, as a shareholder in various companies, and as a business consultant, I do advise companies to practice "causal marketing." It's good business. But, not because someone with zero stake in that company feels they are entitled to something.

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Who is this "telling" a company anything? Unless it's the shareholders STFU! No one else has ANY right to tell a company anything.

    Now, that said, as a shareholder in various companies, and as a business consultant, I do advise companies to practice "causal marketing." It's good business. But, not because someone with zero stake in that company feels they are entitled to something.
    All stakeholders, which is more than just shareholders.

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by JuBru View Post
    All stakeholders, which is more than just shareholders.
    No, again, it's only about the shareholders. But, as I just posted "casual marketing" is good business, and that addresses the stakeholders.

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