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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by FriscoDog View Post
    Perhaps it is barcoded and can show if it has been tampered with. There are such envelopes. I noticed you also completely avoided talking about democrats committing fraud.. That was your hail mary you were counting on for this election, because everyone knows that Biden would not get legitimate votes needed to win.
    This is not about voter fraud, which republicans have just as much a history with. But voter fraud is not really a widespread problem in the base case, and there are severe consequences if you do it.

    This is about disqualifying ballots in a way that disproportionately impacts democrats. That is a much bigger problem. Republicans have a unique history of doing this.

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    This is not about voter fraud, which republicans have just as much a history with. But voter fraud is not really a widespread problem in the base case, and there are severe consequences if you do it.

    This is about disqualifying ballots in a way that disproportionately impacts democrats. That is a much bigger problem. Republicans have a unique history of doing this.
    It's not a wide spread problem because mail in voting has never been wide spread.. only localized to smaller offices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FriscoDog View Post
    It's not a wide spread problem because mail in voting has never been wide spread.. only localized to smaller offices.
    And where they have mail in voting, it hasn’t been a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    And where they have mail in voting, it hasn’t been a problem.
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ore...outputType=amp

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Being a lawyer, you should know that process matters.

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    And a secrecy envelope stops this type of fraud how?

    Btw, cases where fraud is enough to sway an election, like the NCarolina Republican fraud case, are easy to catch.

    My bro-in-law voted by mail in a state that permits it and he was contacted because his signature didn’t match the records.

    In other words, the problem is not with mail-in voting. To the extent there is fraudulent voting (mail-in or in person), it is an issue with local controls not whether a vote is cast by mail. Many states get this right already.

    This hysteria about mail in voting is just another voter suppression tactic that gives republicans an edge.

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by JuBru View Post
    Being a lawyer, you should know that process matters.
    Which process?

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    This is not about voter fraud, which republicans have just as much a history with. But voter fraud is not really a widespread problem in the base case, and there are severe consequences if you do it.

    This is about disqualifying ballots in a way that disproportionately impacts democrats. That is a much bigger problem. Republicans have a unique history of doing this.
    Too bad that it isn't Republicans doing this. The PA Supreme Court is 5-2 Democratic vs Republican. So your argument is false.

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Yep! Biden and the DNC involved in China and BLM kickback cash in this election.


    Published 50 mins ago

    Herschel Walker claims China is helping fund BLM which then donates to Democrats
    He noted that Black Lives Matter’s founders said they were trained by Marxists

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    https://www.foxnews.com/sports/hersc...s-to-democrats

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by FriscoDog View Post
    Too bad that it isn't Republicans doing this. The PA Supreme Court is 5-2 Democratic vs Republican. So your argument is false.
    Lol. Courts are not supposed to bring politics into their rulings.

    Who was the one filing the petition challenging the validity of votes not submitted in a secrecy sub-envelope? I will spare you the effort of researching - it was the Republicans (a challenge brought by the RNC and Trump Campaign).

    It is dirty politics, but par for the course for the Republicans these days.

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Lol. Courts are not supposed to bring politics into their rulings.

    Who was the one filing the petition challenging the validity of votes not submitted in a secrecy sub-envelope? I will spare you the effort of researching - it was the Republicans (a challenge brought by the RNC and Trump Campaign).

    It is dirty politics, but par for the course for the Republicans these days.
    ROFL Democrats have been playing dirty politics for decades... But back to the point.. then why did the PA SC rule in favor of the challenge if it had no merit? Remember they are not political.. your words..

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by FriscoDog View Post
    ROFL Democrats have been playing dirty politics for decades... But back to the point.. then why did the PA SC rule in favor of the challenge if it had no merit? Remember they are not political.. your words..
    The Dems have always been the definition of dirty politics and lies. And prejudice and racial injustice against blacks and minorities is their most common and best tool. They invented it!

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by FriscoDog View Post
    ROFL Democrats have been playing dirty politics for decades... But back to the point.. then why did the PA SC rule in favor of the challenge if it had no merit? Remember they are not political.. your words..
    It was a matter of statutory interpretation and the court interpreted that the statute require the secrecy envelope. But why did Republicans ask the court to support this interpretation? And why are Republicans legislators not willing to work to fix the issue? Again, it is because tactically they think it will hurt the Democrat vote by disqualifying more Democrat votes than Republican votes.

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    LBJ was a straight up non-racist.

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