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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by FriscoDog View Post
    Please point to the page and section that tells us what Trump did that was a crime and worthy of being prosecuted. What page did Mueller say Trump colluded with the Russians, and the evidence that supported it? this way we don't have to read all 400+ pages of it.
    Why don’t you just read it and educate yourself?

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    By the way, Mueller didn’t investigate “collusion”, he was investigating possible coordination between the campaign and the Russians, particularly any actual crimes committed in the context of that coordination. He was also investigating obstruction of justice, which you chose to ignore for some reason.

    Some interesting quotes from the report:

    "The evidence supports the inference that the President intended (former campaign Chairman Paul) Manafort to believe that he could receive a pardon, which would make cooperation with the government as a means of obtaining a lesser sentence unnecessary."

    “The President's efforts to influence the investigation were mostly unsuccessful, but that is largely because the persons who surrounded the President declined to carry out orders or accede to his requests."

    “[T]he investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts..."

    "Michael Flynn -- who would later serve as national security adviser in the Trump Administration -- recalled that Trump made the request repeatedly, and Flynn subsequently contacted multiple people in an effort to obtain the emails,"

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    By the way, Mueller didn’t investigate “collusion”, he was investigating possible coordination between the campaign and the Russians, particularly any actual crimes committed in the context of that coordination. He was also investigating obstruction of justice, which you chose to ignore for some reason.

    Some interesting quotes from the report:

    "The evidence supports the inference that the President intended (former campaign Chairman Paul) Manafort to believe that he could receive a pardon, which would make cooperation with the government as a means of obtaining a lesser sentence unnecessary."

    “The President's efforts to influence the investigation were mostly unsuccessful, but that is largely because the persons who surrounded the President declined to carry out orders or accede to his requests."

    “[T]he investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts..."

    "Michael Flynn -- who would later serve as national security adviser in the Trump Administration -- recalled that Trump made the request repeatedly, and Flynn subsequently contacted multiple people in an effort to obtain the emails,"
    No collusion and no obstruction in an investigation that took almost 2 years and cost $40,000,000. Get over your obsession with our President. Nobody gives a shit what you and your lying democrats think.

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by DONW View Post
    No collusion and no obstruction in an investigation that took almost 2 years and cost $40,000,000. Get over your obsession with our President. Nobody gives a shit what you and your lying democrats think.
    You wouldn’t know since you haven’t read the report.

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Well, gee, I hope this report is at least as accurate and truthful as the fake dossier that started the great hoax!

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Well, gee, I hope this report is at least as accurate and truthful as the fake dossier that started the great hoax!
    Accuracy and truth (such as reflected in the Mueller report) is the result of investigating raw intelligence (such as reflected in the Dossier). That is how the intelligence community normally works.

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Got it...Mueller Report = Fake Dossier

    thanks for that clarification.

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Meanwhile, back to the topic of this thread...

    Biden has surged ahead of Sanders in New Hampshire. If Crazy Bernie can't hold serve on his "home turf" he is toast!

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Meanwhile, back to the topic of this thread...

    Biden has surged ahead of Sanders in New Hampshire. If Crazy Bernie can't hold serve on his "home turf" he is toast!
    No Democrat can win the general election without support from the lunatic communist wing of the Democrat Party. Those people will not support Biden. They won't vote at all if Uncle Joe's the Democrat nominee. May be a moot point though, as Biden may be in jail by the time the election happens in 2020.

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Trump says it would be appropriate for him to have Barr investigate Biden: https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...e-barr-1317601

    New deep state!

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    I agree, INVESTIGATE the whole corrupt obummer administration! Unlock those "locked up" documents which has all the incriminating evidence.

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Gib uns einen starken Mann!

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Trump says it would be appropriate for him to have Barr investigate Biden: https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...e-barr-1317601

    New deep state!
    The precedent has been set unfortunately. Mostly to cheers from the left.

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by detltu View Post
    The precedent has been set unfortunately. Mostly to cheers from the left.
    Excuse me? “Lock her up”?

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Excuse me? “Lock her up”?
    What's your point? I missed the part where he actually locked her up, but maybe it's coming. There is a difference between saying a political opponent should face legal consequences for their actions ("lock her up") and actually weaponizing our institutions against political opponents (IRS, FBI, DOJ). Don't get me wrong, the right will cheer this on just the same.

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