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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    How many self-described conservatives were supporting Trump at this point last cycle?

    Approaching zero.
    I look at it differently.. When there were 500 republican candidates in the primary in 2016, I did not support Trump until he was the nominee. That said, Trump has accomplished way more conservative items than any republican POTUS since Reagan. And I supported both Bushes.

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Biden? Doesn't sound like someone a "libertarian" would support.
    I am a pragmatist with a libertarian heart. Trump is an authoritarian nutcase.

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    I am a pragmatist with a libertarian heart. Trump is an authoritarian nutcase.
    You're no libertarian. Neither am I, but then I don't pretend to be.

    Actually, I lean libertarian on some issues. If that means government "hands off," then yes. But I also support the government doing what the Constitution requires, and within parameters doing a little more, as long as that supports my conservative views. To be a true libertarian is to support isolationism, and I can't go there. I don't like us being the world's police, per se, just when it is consistent with our national interests.

    But, I will never, ever support a Dem, the party of socialism and death. Obviously, you're okay with both of those.

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Trump is an authoritarian.
    Moreso than any other president? Much less than Obama as he has eased and erased much of his authoritarian legacy. 6 more years should get it all out of here.

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    obummer infamously said, "I have a phone and a pen, I don't need..." [Congress]. Sounds pretty authoritarian to me.

    The other 2016 option was Krooked Killary who has the rep of treating staff rudely and cruelly. Another form of authoritarianism.

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    obummer infamously said, "I have a phone and a pen, I don't need..." [Congress]. Sounds pretty authoritarian to me.

    The other 2016 option was Krooked Killary who has the rep of treating staff rudely and cruelly. Another form of authoritarianism.
    Wow. Cause Trump treats his staff nicely. Lol.

    For every comment you have that Obama said (note the phone is a reference to going directly to the American people), you have 100 statements by Trump attacking the judicial branch, ignoring Congress’s authority, attacking the press, etc.). Trump is at least 2 magnitudes more authoritarian than Obama or Hillary. It isn’t even close. Not by a million miles.

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Wow. Cause Trump treats his staff nicely. Lol.

    For every comment you have that Obama said (note the phone is a reference to going directly to the American people), you have 100 statements by Trump attacking the judicial branch, ignoring Congress’s authority, attacking the press, etc.). Trump is at least 2 magnitudes more authoritarian than Obama or Hillary. It isn’t even close. Not by a million miles.
    Just think. You've got six more years to live with President Donald J. Trump as he keeps on winning no matter what you leftists think, say, or do. He'll completely destroy the deep state before he's finished.

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by brtransplant View Post
    Just think. You've got six more years to live with President Donald J. Trump as he keeps on winning no matter what you leftists think, say, or do. He'll completely destroy the deep state before he's finished.
    Let's all pray this is so with God's guidance!

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Wow. Cause Trump treats his staff nicely. Lol.

    For every comment you have that Obama said (note the phone is a reference to going directly to the American people), you have 100 statements by Trump attacking the judicial branch, ignoring Congress’s authority, attacking the press, etc.). Trump is at least 2 magnitudes more authoritarian than Obama or Hillary. It isn’t even close. Not by a million miles.
    Oh, obummer was planning to call every American by phone? What, in all 57 states!? Sorry, I have scumbag blocker on, his call would have never gotten through.

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Oh, obummer was planning to call every American by phone? What, in all 57 states!? Sorry, I have scumbag blocker on, his call would have never gotten through.
    "I've got a pen to take executive actions where Congress won't, and I've got a telephone to rally folks around the country on this mission."

    Btw, Obama has 44 executive orders in 8 years. Trump already has 45 in 3.

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by brtransplant View Post
    Just think. You've got six more years to live with President Donald J. Trump as he keeps on winning no matter what you leftists think, say, or do. He'll completely destroy the deep state before he's finished.
    You mean President Biden.

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    You mean President Biden.
    We already know of two foreign scandals involving Biden, so, no way can you possibly support him...by your own criteria. As of now, Trump has not been involved in any such nonsense, Biden...at least twice, and probably more will be uncovered. Sorry, you don't want to be labeled as a hypocrite, choose someone else.

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    I'm not a democrat or a Trump fan (both facts well documented here). Biden is a mistake for the DNC. The Bernie Bros won't back him...not sure Warren's followers will either. Sure, Biden has a better shot at Obama voters than the two previously mentioned (or Mayor Pete or Beto), but I don't know that what is gained will outweigh what is lost. Biden is the DNC establishment pick and that bit the DNC last go round.

    Their only hope is to pair one of the young guys (as VP) with Harris or Booker.

    My qualms with Trump have been discussed ad nauseam, but the DNC is a train wreck right now. No leadership outside of Pelosi (who has been effective) and no unifying charge. They're letting the left-most wing of the party continue this impeachment mantra (which the public does not support) when they should be trying to get behind healthcare or something else the country agrees with them on.

    Shaping up for another circus freakshow come 2020. Damning for the country? Probably. Good entertainment? Definitely. As they say, you get the government you most deserve.
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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    The country does NOT agree with the Dems on healthcare.

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    Re: Presidential Election 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    I'm not a democrat or a Trump fan (both facts well documented here). Biden is a mistake for the DNC. The Bernie Bros won't back him...not sure Warren's followers will either. Sure, Biden has a better shot at Obama voters than the two previously mentioned (or Mayor Pete or Beto), but I don't know that what is gained will outweigh what is lost. Biden is the DNC establishment pick and that bit the DNC last go round.

    Their only hope is to pair one of the young guys (as VP) with Harris or Booker.

    My qualms with Trump have been discussed ad nauseam, but the DNC is a train wreck right now. No leadership outside of Pelosi (who has been effective) and no unifying charge. They're letting the left-most wing of the party continue this impeachment mantra (which the public does not support) when they should be trying to get behind healthcare or something else the country agrees with them on.

    Shaping up for another circus freakshow come 2020. Damning for the country? Probably. Good entertainment? Definitely. As they say, you get the government you most deserve.
    Good post. The Dems have become a pure Socialist Party which is also amoral, intolerant haters, anti-semitic and anti-God in general and for this they should and will lose by a large margin IMHO.

    Case-in-point (one might want to visit the "end days" prophet thread as well).



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