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    Re: NFL Playoff Picture

    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    That was ridiculously bad, but Dez didn’t get completely run over on his route by the DB.
    No.....the refs just decided they weren't going to let him have the catch that he rightfully made. And scoring from there would have likely sent the Cowboys to the Super Bowl.

    Someone in a previous post stated that the game today seemed to have been "fixed". I wouldn't doubt that at all. Surely the NFL benefits from having the Rams play in a Super Bowl, so soon after relocating the franchise back to Los Angeles after a 22-yr absence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    No.....the refs just decided they weren't going to let him have the catch that he rightfully made. And scoring from there would have likely sent the Cowboys to the Super Bowl.

    Someone in a previous post stated that the game today seemed to have been "fixed". I wouldn't doubt that at all. Surely the NFL benefits from having the Rams play in a Super Bowl, so soon after relocating the franchise back to Los Angeles after a 22-yr absence.
    Gotcha. Might just be my bias, but why not work it out for Brees and Brady to play each other. Winner cruises into retirement and loser comes back for another try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    No.....the refs just decided they weren't going to let him have the catch that he rightfully made. And scoring from there would have likely sent the Cowboys to the Super Bowl.

    Someone in a previous post stated that the game today seemed to have been "fixed". I wouldn't doubt that at all. Surely the NFL benefits from having the Rams play in a Super Bowl, so soon after relocating the franchise back to Los Angeles after a 22-yr absence.
    I hate the Cowboys but agree that should’ve been a catch. But if you remember, the Cowboys wouldn’t even have been playing had the refs not bailed them out the week before against the Lions.

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    Re: NFL Playoff Picture

    The cornerback just said that he expected that to be a penalty - he was just trying to save the touchdown and would rather have the flag and a chance to stop them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    Left a ton of points on the field. Still, they 1 call screwed us for sure.
    That dropped TD in the first quarter hurt. That cost us 4 points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Dawg View Post
    The cornerback just said that he expected that to be a penalty - he was just trying to save the touchdown and would rather have the flag and a chance to stop them.
    You could tell by the way he reacted after the play that was true. They were beat on the play and he was just trying to stop a total disaster. Then he got lucky.

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    Worst call...or non-call...in football history. The Rams DB admitted he took out Lewis to deny a sure TD. But had the call been made...unless Lutz would have missed the chippy FG...Saints win. Okay, so everyone agrees Saints got screwed on that play. But! the lousy O continued. Brees was very average.

    Even with the horrible call, Saints led 23-20 with 1:40 left in the game. And the D couldn't get it done. Okay...then we go into OT and win the toss! Okay, here we go. But Brees threw an INT. Yep, horrible call, true. But....

    Meantime, all Bilicheck and Brady do is win again. No excuses. And looky there, game goes into OT, Pats win the toss and go down and score a TD.

    Just saying....

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    Listening to Clay Travis on the drive in this morning they were talking about was the need for a penalty challenge flag. Or a rule like the NBA has for reviewing calls in the last 2 minutes of a game to be sure all calls are accurate. He also discussed that Goodell has a rule available where he could have the teams replay the end of the game...which of course the Saints would win. (That ain't happening!) For sure, something needs to be done because the Saints should be in the Super Bowl. And the Rams shouldn't.

    My own personal protest, but I'm not watching the Super Bowl this year. Yeah it's small and won't mean anything, but screw 'em anyway.

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    The irony of that Rams' DB deliberately committing the foul was he thought he was doing his team a favor. I know, in the heat of the moment, it's tough to think everything through. But, had the penalty been called the Saints would have run the clock down to 4 seconds, used a timeout, and Lutz would have had a chippy FG to win it. BUT! if the Rams' DB allows Lewis to make the catch and walk in for the TD, yeah the Rams would have trailed 27-20, but there would have been 1:50 left, plenty of time for the Rams to tie it up again.

    As it turned out, the Rams' DB's mental blunder worked out for the Rams, because the refs bailed him out with the no-call.

    I will watch the Super Bowl and I will root for the Pats. Which, I would have rooted for the Pats even if the Rams had won the game fairly. People like to hate the Pats, because they have committed the ultimate "foh pah," they win TOO MUCH! Americans love a winner...just don't do it too much. Then it's not fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    The irony of that Rams' DB deliberately committing the foul was he thought he was doing his team a favor. I know, in the heat of the moment, it's tough to think everything through. But, had the penalty been called the Saints would have run the clock down to 4 seconds, used a timeout, and Lutz would have had a chippy FG to win it. BUT! if the Rams' DB allows Lewis to make the catch and walk in for the TD, yeah the Rams would have trailed 27-20, but there would have been 1:50 left, plenty of time for the Rams to tie it up again. As it turned out, the Rams' DB's mental blunder worked out for the Rams, because the refs bailed him out with the no-call. I will watch the Super Bowl and I will root for the Pats. Which, I would have rooted for the Pats even if the Rams had won the game fairly. People like to hate the Pats, because they have committed the ultimate "foh pah," they win TOO MUCH! Americans love a winner...just don't do it too much. Then it's not fair.
    That's a small part of it. The bigger part of Patriots hatred is the fact they cheated to begin the dynasty. They went years of filming opponents walk throughs before being caught. It gave them advantages that led to a culture of winning that could sustain itself with the help of perhaps the greatest coach in NFL history.

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    With LA and NE playing in Atlanta, they might as well go ahead and have the Democratic national convention at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Worst call...or non-call...in football history. The Rams DB admitted he took out Lewis to deny a sure TD. But had the call been made...unless Lutz would have missed the chippy FG...Saints win. Okay, so everyone agrees Saints got screwed on that play. But! the lousy O continued. Brees was very average.

    Even with the horrible call, Saints led 23-20 with 1:40 left in the game. And the D couldn't get it done. Okay...then we go into OT and win the toss! Okay, here we go. But Brees threw an INT. Yep, horrible call, true. But....

    Meantime, all Bilicheck and Brady do is win again. No excuses. And looky there, game goes into OT, Pats win the toss and go down and score a TD.

    Just saying....
    It really comes down to injuries. Four of the 5 starting Saints O lineman were playing injured. It started with Bushrod's pec injury and got to the point where Andrus Peat had to play with a broken hand. Jermon Bushrod went to the Pro Bowl a few years ago as a guard for the Dolphins, and he would be Peat's backup. But his hamstring probably wouldn't hold up an entire game. He was injured while filling in for Bushrod a month ago.

    You saw the difference those injuries made in the rematches against the Eagles and Rams. A few months ago the Saints O line went from fairly easily handling d lineman like Fletcher Cox, Tim Jernigan, Aaron Donald, and Ndamukong Suh to at times being dominated by those same players in the playoffs.

    Throw in injuries in the past week that sidelined the No. 3 receiver in Kirkwood along with starting TE Ben Watson, who was battling appendicitis, Josh Hill, the backup TE, who was concussed in the first quarter and Sheldon Rankins, who went out against the Eagles. Rankins being out left a big void in the middle of the Saints defense, as he's easily the Saints best interior pass rusher. The Saints were just not able to get a push up the middle on pass plays without him.

    And why was Dan Arnold even on the field to drop the touchdown pass from Brees in the first quarter? Because backup TE Michael Hoomanawanui suffered a concussion in training camp and has had to miss the season. Arnold is the 4th string TE and would be on the practice squad if it wasn't for the injuries.

    I'd even throw in Dez Bryant. He had a phenomenal workout with the Saints before being signed and then never made it past his second practice before his achilles injury. He would have made a huge difference. Bryant was signed after Cameron Meredith was placed on IR having never gotten past the injury he suffered in Chicago in the 2017 season.

    It's is somewhat surprising to me the Saints actually got to the point where they were a blown call away from the Superbowl.
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    Similarly to the NFC game, how about KC blowing it by an offsides penalty with about 2 minutes to go? It nullified the interception that would have sealed the game. That dude has a lot of "splainin' " to do about lining up offsides! KC could have easily run out the clock in regulation, and there would have been no OT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glm47 View Post
    With LA and NE playing in Atlanta, they might as well go ahead and have the Democratic national convention at the same time.
    Exactly!! The media and Roger Goodall got what it wanted

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Historian View Post
    It really comes down to injuries. Four of the 5 starting Saints O lineman were playing injured. It started with Bushrod's pec injury and got to the point where Andrus Peat had to play with a broken hand. Jermon Bushrod went to the Pro Bowl a few years ago as a guard for the Dolphins, and he would be Peat's backup. But his hamstring probably wouldn't hold up an entire game. He was injured while filling in for Bushrod a month ago.

    You saw the difference those injuries made in the rematches against the Eagles and Rams. A few months ago the Saints O line went from fairly easily handling d lineman like Fletcher Cox, Tim Jernigan, Aaron Donald, and Ndamukong Suh to at times being dominated by those same players in the playoffs.

    Throw in injuries in the past week that sidelined the No. 3 receiver in Kirkwood along with starting TE Ben Watson, who was battling appendicitis, Josh Hill, the backup TE, who was concussed in the first quarter and Sheldon Rankins, who went out against the Eagles. Rankins being out left a big void in the middle of the Saints defense, as he's easily the Saints best interior pass rusher. The Saints were just not able to get a push up the middle on pass plays without him.

    And why was Dan Arnold even on the field to drop the touchdown pass from Brees in the first quarter? Because backup TE Michael Hoomanawanui suffered a concussion in training camp and has had to miss the season. Arnold is the 4th string TE and would be on the practice squad if it wasn't for the injuries.

    I'd even throw in Dez Bryant. He had a phenomenal workout with the Saints before being signed and then never made it past his second practice before his achilles injury. He would have made a huge difference. Bryant was signed after Cameron Meredith was placed on IR having never gotten past the injury he suffered in Chicago in the 2017 season.

    It's is somewhat surprising to me the Saints actually got to the point where they were a blown call away from the Superbowl.
    Of course! just bad luck for the Saints, why, every other team, all 31 others, stayed 100% healthy all year! Only the Saints had injury issues.

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