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    Re: Ouachita folks, you ready for a ULM tax????

    I think the difference between the 32 million (14%) and the 46MM is the 7% of adults who are functionally illiterate. (below 5th grade level)

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    Re: Ouachita folks, you ready for a ULM tax????

    Is a ad valorem tax proposal an admission of failure by an institution's alumni association and foundation?
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    Re: Ouachita folks, you ready for a ULM tax????

    How many students from outside of Ouachita Parish attend ULM? Ouichita Parish would be subsidizing those students. This could be a major issue which could be raised by those against the tax. What next? Will they be charging OUT OF PARISH TUITION?

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    Re: Ouachita folks, you ready for a ULM tax????

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgpix View Post
    Is a ad valorem tax proposal an admission of failure by an institution's alumni association and foundation?
    I think you could argue that either way. It depends largely on one's expectations of what alums are "supposed" to do.

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    Re: Ouachita folks, you ready for a ULM tax????

    Quote Originally Posted by Champ967 View Post
    I think the difference between the 32 million (14%) and the 46MM is the 7% of adults who are functionally illiterate. (below 5th grade level)
    D80 was calculating 14% of ALL Americans. His 328 includes children. HD was using 14% of Adults.

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    Re: Ouachita folks, you ready for a ULM tax????

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden View Post
    And you would fail -

    If the taxing authority goes through the proper the procedures with the bonding commission and the state, the Police Jury has no option but to let it got to vote or face the wrath of the AG and Secretary of State in court - regardless of what kind of district it is - water, sewer, fire, levee, enterprise, recreation etal
    Who is the taxing authority in this case? I really don't know. My uninformed take is that the police jury could kill it if they wanted to. I agree faninmonroe would not have a case if the police jury puts it on the ballot and it passes.

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    Re: Ouachita folks, you ready for a ULM tax????

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgpix View Post
    Is a ad valorem tax proposal an admission of failure by an institution's alumni association and foundation?
    Or an admission that they are a low level local college with limited to no regional support and/or worth.

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    Re: Ouachita folks, you ready for a ULM tax????

    Quote Originally Posted by sportdawg View Post
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    I copied it straight from the Dept of Education site. It specifically said 32 million adults can't read. It didn't say 46 million. Of course, as usual, we have a bunch of smarty pants folks on this board who want to nitpick stuff.

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    Re: Ouachita folks, you ready for a ULM tax????

    Quote Originally Posted by sportdawg View Post
    D80 was calculating 14% of ALL Americans. His 328 includes children. HD was using 14% of Adults.
    Right...thanks for clarifying that.

    Regardless, how can 14% of adults in America be illiterate?

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    Re: Ouachita folks, you ready for a ULM tax????

    Quote Originally Posted by touchdown123 View Post
    Who is the taxing authority in this case? I really don't know. My uninformed take is that the police jury could kill it if they wanted to. I agree faninmonroe would not have a case if the police jury puts it on the ballot and it passes.
    The Police Jury can not kill it from the "district" perspective without legal consequences - it would be a "district tax" but the tax has to be "placed" on the ballot via a vote of the Police Jury per state bonding commission regs/rules - just like a fire district tax, levee district, hospital district, sewer district etal since allow of those "districs/taxing authorities" are legal component units of the Parish i.e. Police Jury whose boards are appointed by the Police Jury in nearly all cases
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    Re: Ouachita folks, you ready for a ULM tax????

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    According to a study conducted in late April by the U.S. Department of Education and the National Institute of Literacy, 32 million adults in the U.S. can't read. That's 14 percent (1 in 7) of the population. 21 percent of adults in the U.S. read below a 5th grade level, and 19 percent of high school graduates can't read. (as of Jul 7, 2017)

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/...n_3880355.html

    https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-li...ate-in-America

    Of course, this has nothing to do with the literacy rate of HOMEOWNERS, which was your initial question. That info is very hard to find. But for obvious reasons, I guarantee you the literacy rate of homeowners will be much higher than the general public's.

    While I did find info stating that the most illiterate city in America is Bakersfield, CA, it seems almost impossible to find out exactly WHO the illiterate are in America. Are they mostly native hispanic people who speak Spanish (likely)? Are they white hillbillies from Appalachia? Are they renters? No documents seem to want to identify WHO the illiterate are in America. I suspect this is for political and stigmatization reasons. Good luck finding data on that.
    I guess while socialist liberal Dems push for 90% taxes and to change our voting process per no electoral college and only going by popular vote count; conservatives should rally around that only those allowed to vote are American citizens whom speak and write english and are tax paying property owners.

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    Re: Ouachita folks, you ready for a ULM tax????

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden View Post
    The Police Jury can not kill it from the "district" perspective without legal consequences - it would be a "district tax" but the tax has to be "placed" on the ballot via a vote of the Police Jury per state bonding commission regs/rules - just like a fire district tax, levee district, hospital district, sewer district etal since allow of those "districs/taxing authorities" are legal component units of the Parish i.e. Police Jury whose boards are appointed by the Police Jury in nearly all cases
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    —nlulm is pushing for a spring vote where turnout would be limited and the only ones voting would be usual core of five supporters and students who would be threatened with higher tuition if they don’t support and boost the turnout to pass the vote. If the referendum were delayed voting until the fall there would be a higher level of opposition voting against the tax due to more elections attracting voters.
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    Re: Ouachita folks, you ready for a ULM tax????

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgpix View Post
    nlulm is pushing for a spring vote where turnout would be limited and the only ones voting would be usual core of five supporters and students who would be threatened with higher tuition if they don’t support and boost the turnout to pass the vote. If the referendum were delayed voting until the fall there would be a higher level of opposition voting against the tax due to more elections attracting voters.
    Not gonna lie, pretty clever.

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    Re: Ouachita folks, you ready for a ULM tax????

    The spring vote appears to be a good move, for the reason stated. But, it can also motivate folks to get out to vote against it. If there's opposition to this tax...and there should be!...then it shouldn't take much of an organization to motivate those in opposition. And then for the same reason given for the "yays" to have been successful the "nays" should be.

    I vote NO on every tax that appears on a ballot. And, we, my bunch, haven't missed a single election in more than, well, forever!

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