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    Re: China

    This was posted on FB:

    "This is the longest something made in China has ever lasted."

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    Re: China

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    This was posted on FB:

    "This is the longest something made in China has ever lasted."
    im actually all for boycotting anything made in China where possible.

    Published 22 hours ago
    Coronavirus pressures US manufacturers to bring plants home from China
    'We have to be able to make things in the United States'




    https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/...ina-operations

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    Re: China

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    I’m actually all for boycotting anything made in China where possible.

    Published 22 hours ago
    Coronavirus pressures US manufacturers to bring plants home from China
    'We have to be able to make things in the United States'




    https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/...ina-operations
    Coronavirus: US university stops using Chinese testing kits after some found to be contaminated

    https://www.scmp.com/news/world/unit...-using-chinese

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    Re: China

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Coronavirus: US university stops using Chinese testing kits after some found to be contaminated

    https://www.scmp.com/news/world/unit...-using-chinese
    In everything, even this mess, there is a silver lining. I hope the world sees China, the Chicoms, for what it is. Japan is already taking steps to relieve itself of dependency on China for many critical items. The rest of the world needs to follow suit.

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    Re: China

    I bet it’s way higher then that even. I’m betting 500,000 easily.

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    China could have 50 times more coronavirus cases than claimed, Trump administration official says


    As the international community, including Chinese citizens, raises questions about the Chinese government's tally of coronavirus cases and the communist nation's mortality rate, new details are emerging about just how far off official government calculations have likely been, Fox News has learned.

    Last week, the People's Republic of China increased their official count of fatalities inside Wuhan, the epicenter of the virus outbreak, by 50 percent in just one day, increasing the overall tally by 1,290 people.

    US OFFICIALS CONFIRM FULL-SCALE INVESTIGATION OF WHETHER CORONAVIRUS ESCAPED FROM WUHAN LAB

    Now, a Trump administration official tells Fox News they estimate the PRC has miscalculated and underreported the true tally nationwide by at least a factor of 50. “PRC numbers as reported today seem to be arithmetically impossible,” the official said.

    “Again, we don’t know the real numbers today, but we do know the about 80,000 infections and 4,000 deaths as reported by the Chinese Communist Party propaganda are not even remotely close,” the person added.

    Intelligence sources, asked about recent reports of funeral homes in Wuhan becoming overwhelmed by the volume of new corpses and plagued by a shortage of urns to hold virus victims' remains, declined to confirm the existence of classified satellite images. They did affirm, however, that the reporting is within the realm of possibility based on the evidentiary record.

    COVID-19 vaccine: The ethical dilemma of 'human challenge trial'Video
    In support of this claim, officials point to the existence of seven funeral homes inside Wuhan city with a total incineration capacity of about 2,000 corpses per day. They also flag recent reporting that incinerators have been in near-constant use for 24 hours per day over the past several weeks. They note that, at this rate, the city's incineration capacity nears 60,000 corpses per month.

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    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/chi...-official-says

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    Re: China

    A crematorium’s take hour for each person and most in China have 11 furnaces. That’s 24 a day per furnace Gives me 1848 . Just in case the number looked to big.

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    Re: China

    Quote Originally Posted by tech70 View Post
    A crematorium’s take hour for each person and most in China have 11 furnaces. That’s 24 a day per furnace Gives me 1848 . Just in case the number looked to big.
    The lying commies getting caught?

    45,500 corpses incinerated in Wuhan in 2 weeks, say U.S. intel sources
    China's coronavirus figures believed to be 'fake'
    Published April 28, 2020 at 7:35pm


    The Wuhan coronavirus pandemic has infected more than 3.1 million people worldwide, causing more than 216,000 deaths.

    But the true totals probably never will be known, in part because of unreliable information from China, where it originated.

    The Chinese Communist Party's count of about 80,000 infections and 4,000 deaths in the country is not even "remotely close," according to U.S. officials.

    Summit News reported U.S. intelligence has estimated that between March 23 and April 4, at least 45,500 corpses were incinerated in China.

    TRENDING: Hannity demands N.Y. Times retract story, threatens legal action

    The U.S. believes the total is at least 50 times worst than China admits.

    They say up to 60,000 dead bodies per month could have been processed by funeral homes in Wuhan.

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    https://www.wnd.com/2020/04/45500-co...intel-sources/

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    Re: China

    In other Chicom news...

    the crack down on Hong Kong, the recent poorly disguised threats against Taiwan, the world starting to yank industries from China, with more to follow, and the commies are feeling the heat.

    There was a report just released, and cited on FOX News, I think it was on Bret Baire's show, that the US has conducted 10 computer-model wargames vs. China in an all-out fight, and we lost all 10. There was some knashing of teeth and worry expressed, and was used as a warning by one of the guests that Trump had better not push the Chicoms too hard, or else....I dismissed the report, the concern, because it was the exact opposite of what others have been saying...including the Chicoms themselves. Well, I just saw a mention of this 10 out of 10 defeat on a blog I follow. The wargames was a land invasion by US troops, alone! No allies, just us. Well, duh! I didn't need a computer model to tell me we can't land, and support, enough troops on the ground to defeat the 3 million-man Chinese army on their home turf. That was stupid.

    The realistic scenarios, even if land troops are involved, is very limited...mostly us in Taiwan...and it would be a naval battle, and the Chicom land-based air force. Yes, missiles would be flying in both directions too. But most experts say the "war" wouldn't last more than 90 days of hard fighting, once we got our fleets in place. The Chicoms would have lost 85% of their navy, a good 35% of its air force, and to save face the Chicoms would be pushed to the edge to release nukes. Most pundits believe we would go into a pause allowing them time to breathe and to ponder the consequences of using nukes...first. They would not be "defeated" but rather a cease-fire would be agreed to and slowly the two sides would step away from the precipice.

    Revolts would sweep China and the commies would want to "end" the war with us to turn their attention to slaughtering their own people to "restore order." It'll be interesting to see just how far, how violent, the commies get in putting down the "unrest" sweeping thru Hong Kong right now. Other provinces are watching. And you can bet your last donut that the people in Wuhan know the truth, and witnessed loved ones taken away to the furnaces and burned alive in an attempt to squash the spread of the virus. Payback is hell...

    China, for the commies, is a house of cards. Wouldn't take much to shake it all down. And most of the shaking will be provided by the good people of China, ready to toss off the yoke of communism. Oh, and watch what the Dems, the lamestream media, and Goosey's reaction will be. They will want US and our allies to intervene to save the commie leadership there. They'll paint it as humanitarian concerns...and President Trump had better do something! Yeah...I'd contract obummer/Holder to smuggle automatic weapons into China to support the good people. Those two have experience in such matters.

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    Re: China

    Skirmishes increasing along India-China border. Yesterday Indian troops fired on a Chicom patrol which India claims was a border intrusion. There are no reports of casualties, and in the past the two sides have exchanged gunfire without there being anyone wounded, or killed. The border between the two nations is the longest unmarked border in the world. Both sides have accused the other of illegally crossing the line, and dating back to 1962, there has been "trouble" along the border. In 2005 troops from both sides hurled rocks at each other and there were some injuries that resulted. Neither side wanted to start shooting, so the rock battle began.

    India's foreign minister says this is just China having a temper tantrum. The Chicoms are feeling the pressure, and have grown frustrated that their efforts of dominating Asia and of becoming the #1 world super power has been met with resistance. India has reversed the trend of the past 10 years which saw China bypass India in both terms of economic power and military power. obummer abandoned India in favor of China, but Trump has reestablished strong relations with India and the US is once again selling military equipment and have announced joint training. Also, the US just signed the 4-nation agreement of mutual benefits with India, Australia, and Japan and this is viewed as a direct response to China's growing muscle flexing. China's economy and their military budget is still larger than India's, but the gap is narrowing. In terms of the military, the British think tank, Jane's, just rated India higher than China because of the quality of their militaries...and the likelihood of the average soldier's loyalty to his government.

    The issues in India-China relations are complicated. China has been courting Pakistan seeking an alliance. India and Tibet have been stirring the pot of Chinese "tribes" who despise the commie government in Beijing. In the past decade when China talked of war with India, the Indian government immediately backed down and cooled the rhetoric. But in the past few months, India has not backed down stating while they do not seek conflict they stand ready to defend themselves against Chinese aggression. This change in rhetoric shocked the Chicoms who, like a bully, was used to getting its way by having the other side cower. Knowing the US (and Japan and Australia) have their back India is standing up to the bully.

    Of course, we should all hope a full-fledge war doesn't start between India and China. The US doesn't need to be dragged into such a conflict, fought in the Himalayan Mountains. It is enough to keep the Chicoms on edge and worried....they just shifted two divisions to the region. Today, showing the concern, the Chicoms issued a statement accusing the US of starting a new Cold War. They are feeling the pressure and are whining! There is an old saying about "he who blinks first." Well, the Chicoms just blinked.

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    Re: China

    FCC commissioner catches YouTube deleting his comments critical of

    First some background

    https://www.mediaite.com/politics/fc...sorship-report

    So he decided to try it himself...YouTube automatically deleted his comment 15 seconds after he posted it


    https://twitter.com/BrendanCarrFCC/s...56844391976961

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    Re: China

    Quote Originally Posted by FriscoDog View Post
    FCC commissioner catches YouTube deleting his comments critical of

    First some background

    https://www.mediaite.com/politics/fc...sorship-report

    So he decided to try it himself...YouTube automatically deleted his comment 15 seconds after he posted it


    https://twitter.com/BrendanCarrFCC/s...56844391976961
    This is why these platforms can't have any censorship one way or the other. Just let everyone see everything, and let people make their own judgements.

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    Re: China

    Quote Originally Posted by FriscoDog View Post
    FCC commissioner catches YouTube deleting his comments critical of

    First some background

    https://www.mediaite.com/politics/fc...sorship-report

    So he decided to try it himself...YouTube automatically deleted his comment 15 seconds after he posted it


    https://twitter.com/BrendanCarrFCC/s...56844391976961
    Appears to be a result of increased AI moderation, which itself seems to crowdsource feedback that Chinese CP friendly folks may have take advantage of.

    https://www.firstpost.com/tech/news-...s-8157991.html

    They say they are fixing it.

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    Re: China

    China is a strong enemy.


    Freedom Dies in Hong Kong – Hold China Accountable
    May 23, 2020


    https://amac.us/freedom-dies-in-hong...ign=newsletter

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    Re: China

    For those of you worrying our carriers would be easy targets for Chicom missiles...well, you can quit worrying. Since that topic came up, on this thread I think it was, I contacted my sources and posed the question/concern. Of course they are constrained on how much detail they can reveal, but the response was basically, "thanks for the concern, but we got this."

    Here's what I have learned:

    China operates the two largest, most "badest" fixed radar sites in the world. They are "over the horizon radar" bouncing signals off the ionsphere using long wavelengths. As such technology goes, it is the best in the world, and mostly useless against a fast-moving US carrier group very much aware of its existence. In fact, they hinted, we would use false imaging to fool the Chicoms...by the time that signal returned, was deciphered, and the Chicoms tried to react by launching missiles. The carrier group would be more than 60 miles away in any direction. And! the Chicoms would THINK they had just nailed one of our carriers, when all they did was kill some fish. Consider also that fired from their fixed missile bases such rockets would take an average of 90 mins to reach the target, of where our carriers will operate in a war with China. They would be tracked and the carriers would maneuver out of harm's way. And those fixed radar sites would be taken out in the early hours of the war anyway. Mark that one a FAIL! for the Chicoms. Next!

    China operates 12 satellites that can be used to locate and track US carriers. True, they could use those. But, again, we know that! To be even remotely effective, they would have to line up all 12 satellites in a line, bring them down to a low orbit, 660 miles up, and at their speed of travel 16,000 mph, would only be effective for a period of a maximum of 90 minutes at best, and the line of satellites would go around the planet disappearing from the war zone for more than an hour. Using the data received from the first pass...assuming they were lucky enough to have located a US carrier...their missiles would be programmed and either fired, or held hoping the satellites would confirm the location of the carrier on the next pass. Either way, our carriers would know they had been painted by Chicom satellites and use their 35 knot speed to no longer be there. And this assumes the Chicoms could/would pull off the difficult task of getting all 12 of their satellites into a single file orbit like that. No easy feat. More likely their 12 satellites would remain in their current orbits, although brought down to lower orbits and as such be virtually worthless in trying to locate and track fast-moving carrier groups. Another FAIL for the Chicoms. Next!

    China operates 85 surface and attack subs capable of launching ship to ship missiles. They do have one rocket that could cause severe damage to a carrier if it hits in a critical spot. Most experts think a US super carrier would survive, i.e. not sink and actually remain operational, even taking a hit from one those missiles. It would take multiple hits on one carrier to take it out. But! to accomplish that the Chicoms would have to commit at least two of the following, both of their deep ocean subs (they have just two) or all 8 of their heavy guided-missile cruisers. None of those vessels will survive the encounter. Basically, the Chicoms would have to be willing to trade the loss of half of its capability to MAYBE take out one of our 13 super carriers. None of their other ships, their frigates or destroyers, pack enough firepower to sink a US super carrier. If they sent both attack subs and all 8 heavy cruisers on a suicide mission to eliminate one super carrier, well, that still wouldn't guarantee a positive result for them. Our carriers don't operate alone for a reason. There is a screen of US subs, frigates, destroyers, and cruisers...not to mention the carrier's own 78 planes, and its own defenses, that any enemy would have to negotiate before it even got close enough to attack the carrier. And, let's say they were successful. The US still has 12 super carriers and 13 other support carriers. But now the Chicoms are out of naval options. Another FAIL for them. Next!

    The Chicoms have no long range bombers or heavy attack aircraft that could alone, or in a small group, pose a threat to a US super carrier. Their light bombers and fighters, all capable of carrying anti-ship missiles, would have to attack in a large wave and they would suffer huge losses. Still, the chance of enough getting through and actually striking a carrier with a missile is a possibility. But again, even multiple hits from these lighter missiles would not take out a US super carrier. Most likely even in a worse case scenario our carrier would survive and be able to return to port for repairs. In the meantime, the Chicoms would have sacrificed a large portion of their attack aircraft. Another FAIL for them. Next!

    Oh! there is no other Next, except for one....nukes. Like most of the advanced military powers China possesses missiles with nuclear warheads, tactical nukes, that could destroy a US super carrier, and any ships nearby. BUT!!! they have that same problem as mentioned earlier. Tactical nukes are designed to obliterate relatively small areas, a couple of square miles. They would be detonated in the air, above the carrier, which would allow maximum effectiveness. Still, we would know such missiles were on their way and take evasive action. As mentioned, our carriers would operate at distances far enough away from China to cause any launches to take time, in some cases, depending on where in that range our carrier was, and from where in China the missile was launched, it could take 90 minutes for the missile to even get close. Trust me, our carrier won't wait for it. In-flight adjustments to the track of the missile would be attempted by the Chicoms to keep it on target. It does represent a threat, which is why the navy takes it seriously. But, we all know what happens if the Chicoms are the ones that introduce nukes to the conflict...very doubtful they go there.

    What would such a war with China look like? Well, it would be a regional conflict for sure. That is why the US just entered into a joint-readiness agreement with Japan, South Korea, India, and Australia. With Taiwan a given, but unofficial ally in such a war. Those other nations can deploy a total of 8 carriers. Very capable carrier attack groups that the Chicoms could not ignore. Norway just petitioned to be included in the joint training aspects of this group. I'm not sure if Norway would be an active participant in a regional war though, given their geographical location. Outside of landing troops in specific places, like Taiwan, I don't think this war would involve US ground troops. That eliminates China's single biggest advantage, their huge army. Those 300 million men with their AK-47s can just watch missiles and planes fly overhead and they can shout obscenities at us!

    What if the war escalates into WWIII? Well then, all bets are off! But, very doubtful that would happen. Who would ally with China? Maybe some of the radical moooslim groups would seize the opportunity to blow themselves up in suicide attacks somewhere. Pakistan is a flaky nation, at odds with India, who would be on our side. But more than likely Pakistan would not wish to ally with the commies for whom they have no real love, and would just cheer any losses suffered by India. Russia? Nah! they would join Pakistan in the stands and just watch from afar. At worst Putin would try to take advantage of the distraction and do something elsewhere. No, most pundits say the Chicoms would find themselves alone and after suffering humiliating losses would act like the Black Knight, "alright...we'll call it a draw."

    So, given all of this, you should sleep better at night.

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    Re: China

    What about the 3M22 Zircon?

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