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Oops! LOL! The Chicoms, with much hullabaloo, launched a new nuclear sub...and it promptly sunk! It went down in shallow water, just off the dock, so it can be readily raised and salvaged, but what the eff happened!? Doesn't exactly inspire confidence in Chinese sub-building. Imagine if you're part of the crew now training to man that sub, and you learn...say what!? it effing sunk!??
Chicoms are really pushing India and a war, even a limited one along the border, appears imminent. China has invaded a sovereign nation, Bhutan, which is a small country sitting on the border between India and China. Most critical for India is Bhutan sits astride the "chicken neck" which is a narrow strip of land that connects main India to its eastern province. The Chicoms have ignored complaints and protests by the tiny Bhutan government and has invaded Bhutan and have built military bases, roads, and other infrastructure. If Bhutan were to formally ask for assistance to kick the Chicoms out, India would be hard pressed not to accommodate them. Tension is rising.
This situation is heating up. India has been massing units near Bhutan for a possible showdown with the Chicoms. Bhutan has asked India to intervene on their behalf...diplomatically...as Bhutan is a peace-loving society wishing to avoid a war, at all costs. That's part of their problem as they have already essentially told the Chicoms they will not fight to defend their territory. That's all the big bully China needed to hear, thus the on-going incursion.Originally Posted by dawg80
India's hands are tied, except to do what China is doing, effectively "invade" Bhutan themselves and establish their own defensive works and bases. Bhutan does not want India in their country either, but China is invading, ignoring all diplomatic pleas to withdraw, and either India matches them or allow China to seize Bhutan. This is exactly what China did when it invaded and then annexed Tibet. Hardly a shot was fired when Red China invaded and seized Tibet in 1950. Then a revolt against the Chicoms by Tibetan rebels, in 1959, ended after a brief war. The world shrugged then and is shrugging now as Bhutan is being swallowed by China. Of course, the world hardly blinked when Hiter invaded Austria and Czechoslovakia, prior to his invasion of Poland.
India is a "big boy" capable of taking care of itself. They can certainly match China, blow for blow, even in an all-out war. The Bhutan situation is not registering at all on world meters...the UN refused to even talk about it, marking it off the agenda at their latest meeting. China has veto power in the UN anyway, so there is no need to waste time discussing it. But, since India has been in, then out, and now apparently back in Trump's anti-China Quads, this Bhutan mess might be the ticket to keep India firmly onboard with the US and our allies. It was rather easy for India to dismiss China's bullying of Taiwan and The Philippines, but now that they have a chip in the game, they should see the whole thing in a different light.
Probably should “bump” this thread up. China is pissed Trump won. Let’s shut those commie basterds down (quote from back to school).
Saw where the Chicoms funneled $1.3 trillion out to their provincial governments, specifically to boost small and mid-size businesses. The Chinese economy is struggling, and based on some reports terming it as "struggling" is being kind. Some pundits claim China is entering a depression. They are in a recession now. Trump's tariffs aimed at China will exasperate their economic woes, so the Chicoms want to avoid those if they can. There are reports of all kinds of anti-government protests and lots of unrest across China. We KNOW that communism does NOT work! It never has, it never will. Eventually a communist economy consumes itself since it lacks true economic growth. China is unique given its cultural norms such that the population is content living simple, humble lives. But even there the people start looking around, realize they have worked hard all their lives, and they and their children and their grandchildren are stuck where they have always been. That's because the very inefficient commie system has to siphon off the product of all that hard work to support the central government, leaving nothing for those who produced it.
On top of their lousy system, the Chicoms have over-spent their military budget, now they have all these brand-new toys, aircraft carriers, subs (some that sink while tied to a dock, LOL!), and hundreds of ships, planes, tanks, etc. and for what? They have built a military large enough to sustain themselves in an extended world war, so, will they use it, or allow it to rust in place? China's only hope of avoiding total economic collapse is to "participate" in a world war and come out on the winning side. But, if they start such a war, they will be on the wrong side and lose bigly! And I don't see any way for China to be on our side and win a world war...who would we be fighting if the US and China are allied? I suppose Russia and some middle-eastern (namely Iran) country could be a common enemy, but that war wouldn't last but a month. I guess China could then seize all of eastern Russia, including Siberia, and all those natural resources would bolster China's sinking economy.
I think Trump will meet with Xi again, lay down the law, and we'll see China behaving itself for the next four years, waiting for the next very weak POTUS to get in there.
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