The Conservative Divide

[johnnylightnin]

It’s about liberty.

The Conservative Divide

[PawDawg]

George Will as a hero of conservatism...there's your sign.

[johnnylightnin]

George Will as a hero of conservatism...there's your sign.

What in the Will quote did you disagree with?

American conservatism has a clear mission: It is to conserve, by articulating and demonstrating the continuing pertinence of, the Founders’ thinking

[PawDawg]

What in the Will quote did you disagree with?

American conservatism has a clear mission: It is to conserve, by articulating and demonstrating the continuing pertinence of, the Founders’ thinking

George Will does not preach that. He is closer to a "one world" guy than a true conservative.

[johnnylightnin]

George Will does not preach that. He is closer to a "one world" guy than a true conservative.

So, nothing?

[Guisslapp]

So, nothing?

I swear that is all Pawdawg really has these days. Trump support has done a number on some of the regulars around here.

[PawDawg]

“American conservatism has a clear mission: It is to conserve, by articulating and demonstrating the continuing pertinence of, the Founders’ thinking,” Will writes.

Not brilliant, not accurate, and not what Will preaches. It does not matter what I agree or disagree with personally. I don't buy into the BS of people who insist on doing it in a way that has moved left for over 50 years. Things are/were getting worse with these bastions of conservatism calling the shots.

[johnnylightnin]

“American conservatism has a clear mission: It is to conserve, by articulating and demonstrating the continuing pertinence of, the Founders’ thinking,” Will writes.

Not brilliant, not accurate, and not what Will preaches. It does not matter what I agree or disagree with personally. I don't buy into the BS of people who insist on doing it in a way that has moved left for over 50 years. Things are/were getting worse with these bastions of conservatism calling the shots.

That's what I'm asking...what is your version of conservatism? You say it's not accurate, so tell me what he should've said.

[PawDawg]

That's what I'm asking...what is your version of conservatism? You say it's not accurate, so tell me what he should've said.

Tradition over radical social change

Personal Wealth

Private Ownership

Individualism

Patriotic Nationalism

...and more

[dawg80]

Tradition over radical social change

Personal Wealth

Private Ownership

Individualism

Patriotic Nationalism

...and more

and government fiscal conservatism and responsibility

[DONW]

Tradition over radical social change

Personal Wealth

Private Ownership

Individualism

Patriotic Nationalism

...and more

You nailed it!!!!

[Guisslapp]

Tradition over radical social change (aka, anti women and anti anything over heterosexual Christian white make)

Personal Wealth (aka screw future generations)

Private Ownership

Individualism (unless you won’t to express views opposite of heterosexual white Christian men)

Patriotic Nationalism (aka racism and bigotry)

...and more

With decoding...

[Guisslapp]

Btw, one obvious previous value of conservatism that is noticeably absent from your lists and is indeed absent in Trump-pseudoconservatism is Constitutionalism. I remember a time when that mattered the most.

[Guisslapp]

Oh yeah, and the “rule of law”. Lol, remember when that mattered?

[DONW]

Oh yeah, and the “rule of law”. Lol, remember when that mattered?

Sure do, right before Hillary took that hammer to those cell phones that had been subpoenaed by congress and deleted 30,000 emails.