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    Re: Ilhan Omar and Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    So now I hear that Omar is not even her real name. Guess she got confused after she married her brother.
    Incest at it's islamic best I guess. Again, muslim are allowed to lie for the benefit of Islam. Crazy!!

    Taqiyya: Deception and Lying in Islam

    https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/taqiyya.aspx
    Does Islam permit Muslims to lie? Muslim scholars teach that Muslims should generally be truthful to each other, unless the purpose of lying is to "smooth over differences" or "gain the upper-hand over an enemy" There are several forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted under certain circumstances, the best known being taqiyya (the Shia name). These circumstances are typically …


    Islam Permits Lying to Deceive Unbelievers and Bring World ...

    muslimfact.com/.../islam-permits-lying-to-deceive-unbelievers-and-bri.shtml
    Nov 17, 2004 · Muslims are permitted to lie: (1) to save their lives, (2) to reconcile a husband and wife, (3) to persuade a woman into a bedroom and (4) to facilitate one on his journey. Muslims are even permitted to disavow Islam and Mohammed if it is not a genuine heart-felt rejection.

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    Re: Ilhan Omar and Islam

    Who did Adam and Eve’s kids have sexual relations with?

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    Re: Ilhan Omar and Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Who did Adam and Eve’s kids have sexual relations with?
    Sure go totally further off topic. That said, here's one theory...and just one of many. Keep in mind it's illegal now and has been for a very, very, very long time!!!

    Genesis 5:4, “And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:”

    So after Seth was born to Adam, Adam went on to have many more sons and daughters over a period of 800 years. The book of Genesis tells us that Adam lived a total of 930 years. He could have had a ton of children in 930 years! So the simple answer is that Adam’s sons married their sisters.


    Adam’s sons married their sisters because, first of all, there was no other choice! They were the only people in the world.

    Also, there were no laws against it until 2,500 years later. There was no need for the law till then. They did not need laws against this to start out with because the human race had virtually no defects. It was perfect at the beginning. But over the next 2,000 years it slowly became a problem, so God gave the law prohibiting the marrying of sisters in Leviticus chapter 18.

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    Re: Ilhan Omar and Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Who did Adam and Eve’s kids have sexual relations with?
    Other people God created. The Bible is the story of Jesus beginning with Adam. Obviously God created many other humans outside of Adam and Eve

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    Re: Ilhan Omar and Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Other people God created. The Bible is the story of Jesus beginning with Adam. Obviously God created many other humans outside of Adam and Eve
    Exactly; another totally plausible theory.

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    Re: Ilhan Omar and Islam

    Gee, this means you Guisslapp.

    In resurfaced interview, Ilhan Omar answers question on 'jihadist terrorism' by saying Americans should be 'more fearful of white men'


    In a resurfaced interview from 2018, anti-Trump Democrat Ilhan Omar responded to a question about the "quote-unquote legitimate fears" some people have of "jihadist terrorism," by saying Americans should be "more fearful of white men."
    In the interview, Al Jazeera host Medhi Hasan said some Americans feel justified in fearing Islam, not out of hate but for their own safety, before listing a number of radical Islamic terror attacks. Omar dismissed this suggestion immediately and laid the blame on white males instead, calling for the profiling and monitoring of caucasian men.
    "I would say our country should be more fearful of white men across our country because they are actually causing most of the deaths within this country," she replied.
    "And so if fear was the driving force of policies to keep America safe -- Americans safe inside of this country -- we should be profiling, monitoring, and creating policies to fight the radicalization of white men."

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    Re: Ilhan Omar and Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Sure go totally further off topic. That said, here's one theory...and just one of many. Keep in mind it's illegal now and has been for a very, very, very long time!!!

    Genesis 5:4, “And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:”

    So after Seth was born to Adam, Adam went on to have many more sons and daughters over a period of 800 years. The book of Genesis tells us that Adam lived a total of 930 years. He could have had a ton of children in 930 years! So the simple answer is that Adam’s sons married their sisters.


    Adam’s sons married their sisters because, first of all, there was no other choice! They were the only people in the world.

    Also, there were no laws against it until 2,500 years later. There was no need for the law till then. They did not need laws against this to start out with because the human race had virtually no defects. It was perfect at the beginning. But over the next 2,000 years it slowly became a problem, so God gave the law prohibiting the marrying of sisters in Leviticus chapter 18.
    So, there isn’t a problem with incest if there are no laws against it?

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    Re: Ilhan Omar and Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Other people God created. The Bible is the story of Jesus beginning with Adam. Obviously God created many other humans outside of Adam and Eve
    Does the Bible say that or are you just searching for an explanation that doesn’t require incest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Does the Bible say that or are you just searching for an explanation that doesn’t require incest?
    No, I'm not searching. God gives us logic and reasoning skills. Again, the Bible tells the story of Jesus beginning to end. Many others not in the linage of Jesus are part of that story. I don't need to see a family tree of other lines to know many others were created besides Adam and Eve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    No, I'm not searching. God gives us logic and reasoning skills. Again, the Bible tells the story of Jesus beginning to end. Many others not in the linage of Jesus are part of that story. I don't need to see a family tree of other lines to know many others were created besides Adam and Eve.
    Well, according to the Bible, and as pointed out by Ray, A&E had other sons and daughters. Seems like the Bible would have mentioned God taking other ribs from Adam to create other people. The most logical implication is that these siblings were having sex with each other. Don’t know why your god was into incest, but Christianity is just as weird as Islam.

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    Re: Ilhan Omar and Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Incest at it's islamic best I guess. Again, muslim are allowed to lie for the benefit of Islam. Crazy!!

    Taqiyya: Deception and Lying in Islam

    https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/taqiyya.aspx
    Does Islam permit Muslims to lie? Muslim scholars teach that Muslims should generally be truthful to each other, unless the purpose of lying is to "smooth over differences" or "gain the upper-hand over an enemy" There are several forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted under certain circumstances, the best known being taqiyya (the Shia name). These circumstances are typically …


    Islam Permits Lying to Deceive Unbelievers and Bring World ...

    muslimfact.com/.../islam-permits-lying-to-deceive-unbelievers-and-bri.shtml
    Nov 17, 2004 · Muslims are permitted to lie: (1) to save their lives, (2) to reconcile a husband and wife, (3) to persuade a woman into a bedroom and (4) to facilitate one on his journey. Muslims are even permitted to disavow Islam and Mohammed if it is not a genuine heart-felt rejection.
    Islam is a lie,. so sure, after that all lies are permissible.

    Reminder: Islam is NOT a true religion. It's that century's version of say, Climate Change or some other fake zealous movement. With one important difference, it was started by a murdering megalomaniac, Muhammad who was a Napoleon, Hitler, Stalin type of power-hungry "leader." Muhammad is best described as a military leader, a general, who took his own tribe, built it into a fighting-machine and then attacked other tribes and forced them to join him. In that way he was very much like Shaka Zulu who did the same thing and built the Zulu empire at the point of the spear.

    I'd have to dig out my notes to get this part exactly right, but from memory, there were two versions, two camps, of the forerunner of Islam, the "religious" aspects of those people of what is now the Middle East, Persian, Arabia, etc.. There was one rooted in Mecca and Medina and controlled by clerics and scholars, and the other "out in the country side" amongst the scattered tribes, of which Muhammad's was one. Muhammad built a powerful military and "took no prisoners" or, it was convert and join us, or we'll kill you. As I recall Muhammad murdered all those clerics and scholars when he captured Mecca and Medina.

    Regardless, that is the origin of what is today Islam. The "convert or we'll kill you" is still very much the primary MO of Islamists.

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    Re: Ilhan Omar and Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Well, according to the Bible, and as pointed out by Ray, A&E had other sons and daughters. Seems like the Bible would have mentioned God taking other ribs from Adam to create other people. The most logical implication is that these siblings were having sex with each other. Don’t know why your god was into incest, but Christianity is just as weird as Islam.
    Not logic. Only an evil human being would make that claim or depend on a court of law to define when life actually begins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Not logic. Only an evil human being would make that claim or depend on a court of law to define when life actually begins.
    The evil human being that wrote Genesis...

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    Re: Ilhan Omar and Islam

    OK first she marries her own brother and now this guy whom she divorces.

    EXCLUSIVE: Ilhan Omar SPLITS with her husband and moves into luxury penthouse as she heads for SECOND divorce with father of her three children
    • Minnesota Congresswoman Ilhan Omar and her husband Ahmed Hirsi – the father of her three children – have split, DailyMail.com has learned exclusively
    • Omar left her husband and has moved into a penthouse apartment in one of Minneapolis's trendiest neighborhoods
    • 'Wow,' said Hirsi, when approached about the split by DailyMail.com. 'I can't comment on that. I'm sorry, I just can't say anything'
    • Omar did not return calls requesting comment from DailyMail.com by deadline
    • The news comes as critics are demanding Omar answer questions about whether she married her own brother in a successful bid to get him into the US
    • 'Obviously we are proud that a Somali-American has been elected — but we just think it is the wrong Somali-American,' a community leader told DailyMail.com
    • Omar first married Hirsi in an Islamic ceremony in 2002 when she was 19, but six years later they 'reached an impasse in our life together,' and divorced
    • In 2009, Omar married Ahmed Nur Said Elmi, a British citizen, who has been identified as her brother - but this has not been proven
    • Omar had a third child with Hirsi in 2012, even though she was still legally married to Elmi - who she divorced in 2017 and married Hirsi in 2018
    Leftist congresswoman Ilhan Omar and her husband – the father of her three children – have split and are heading for their second divorce, DailyMail.com has learned exclusively.
    The bust-up comes just as critics are demanding answers as to whether she married her own brother in a successful bid to get him into the United States.
    Omar has now dumped her current husband Ahmed Hirsi - who she first married in a religious ceremony in 2002 and divorced in 2008 - and moved into a penthouse apartment in one of Minneapolis's trendiest neighborhoods, DailyMail.com has learned exclusively.
    But Hirsi, is also spending time at the apartment, which is in the Mill District sector of Minnesota's largest city, when she is out of town.




    The bust-up comes just as critics are demanding answers as to whether she married her own brother in a successful bid to get him into the United States. Pictured: Omar with Ahmed Hirsi (left) and second husband Elmi (right)

    'Wow,' said Hirsi, when approached about the split by DailyMail.com outside the complex. 'I can't comment on that.


    'I'm sorry, I just can't say anything,' he added before driving off in his BMW car.
    Omar did not return calls requesting comment from DailyMail.com by deadline.
    Hirsi, 39, had been seen leaving the $2,860-a-month home alone at 7:45am and returning to drop off his mother and his younger daughter nearly three hours later.
    'He only goes there when Ilhan is in DC,' one family friend told DailyMail.com. 'When she's in Minneapolis he sleeps at his house.'
    Hirsi was noticeably absent when Omar returned to a hero's welcome at Minneapolis-St. Paul Airport last week after being attacked by President Donald Trump.

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    Re: Ilhan Omar and Islam

    Thank the Lord!! Omar new job needs to be making falafels and cooking a traditional goat intestines dish.

    Iraq veteran inspired to run against Omar after her 'dismissive' 9/11 comment

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