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    Re: “Conservative” nationalism subverts individual liberty

    Quote Originally Posted by DONW View Post
    Did you know that FNC has a liberal news program that comes on at 2 M-F and is hosted by Shepherd Smith who is gay. They have several news contributors throughout the day that are liberals. I've never seen a conservative news contributor on CNN or MSNBC. CNN and MSNBC are not interested in reporting the truth or having anything other than a liberal view on their network.
    Who watches TV at 2 pm?

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    Re: “Conservative” nationalism subverts individual liberty

    Here's the national conservatism conference line-up: https://nationalconservatism.org/conference-schedule/

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    hese are the "thinkers" behind the nationalism movement. They go MUCH further than what you described 80.

    One point on "globalism": The US makes up 49% of the world's economy. By virtue of that very fact, we have a global economy. There's no way around it. Nothing we do happens in isolation. This is where Trump's anti-free trade policies end up hurting those he claims to want to help.
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    Re: “Conservative” nationalism subverts individual liberty

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Here's the national conservatism conference line-up: https://nationalconservatism.org/conference-schedule/

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    hese are the "thinkers" behind the nationalism movement. They go MUCH further than what you described 80.

    One point on "globalism": The US makes up 49% of the world's economy. By virtue of that very fact, we have a global economy. There's no way around it. Nothing we do happens in isolation. This is where Trump's anti-free trade policies end up hurting those he claims to want to help.
    Wow. It is kind of scary to see it in black and white like that. Seeing the keynote speaker (in the context of his recent false attacks on Google), Tucker’s topic, all the nationalism topics...are conservatives nationalist anti-corporates? If so, will this so-called “conservative” movement evolve into a nationalist socialist movement next?

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    So much of our country’s wealth is from globalism.

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    Re: “Conservative” nationalism subverts individual liberty

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    If so, will this so-called “conservative” movement evolve into a nationalist socialist movement next?
    Nationalism IS collectivism. It WILL subvert individual liberty and the free market to serve its purposes.

    I used to read here that the national debt was the tool the left would use to leave us no choice but socialism. Now, three years later, the “right” has abandoned fiscal conservatism and free-market capitalism.

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    Re: “Conservative” nationalism subverts individual liberty

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Nationalism IS collectivism. It WILL subvert individual liberty and the free market to serve its purposes.

    I used to read here that the national debt was the tool the left would use to leave us no choice but socialism. Now, three years later, the “right” has abandoned fiscal conservatism and free-market capitalism.
    It is interesting. In this Ken Burns Vietnam War series, you can see the same struggle play out in America then. Patriotism vs nationalism. Nationalists were those that supported America’s actions because of loyalty to the country, while those challenging the war considered themselves just as patriotic because they believed that America must always do what is right and wanted their country to live up to this ideal. That is a gross oversimplification, of course, but one key dividing line then that seems almost just as significant now.

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    Re: “Conservative” nationalism subverts individual liberty

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Here's the national conservatism conference line-up: https://nationalconservatism.org/conference-schedule/

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    hese are the "thinkers" behind the nationalism movement. They go MUCH further than what you described 80.

    One point on "globalism": The US makes up 49% of the world's economy. By virtue of that very fact, we have a global economy. There's no way around it. Nothing we do happens in isolation. This is where Trump's anti-free trade policies end up hurting those he claims to want to help.
    I can explain it to you, but obviously I cannot understand it for you. If you don't see everything that is blatantly wrong in your take on the global economy then you are more lost than I had thought.

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    Re: “Conservative” nationalism subverts individual liberty

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Nationalism IS collectivism. It WILL subvert individual liberty and the free market to serve its purposes.

    I used to read here that the national debt was the tool the left would use to leave us no choice but socialism. Now, three years later, the “right” has abandoned fiscal conservatism and free-market capitalism.
    Guess I'm gonna have to put you on ignore too, especially if you quote that piece of filth. But, since you did....did I not say that the left's obvious strategy with the "nationalism" label was a vain attempt to link Conservatives to the 1930's Nazis.

    But this post is just as bad. Nothing you posted is correct.

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    Re: “Conservative” nationalism subverts individual liberty

    Gotta have a label if you want to be a Kool Kid. No cross over views allowed in the secular world. Gotta be all for the secular world cause in or you are a RACIST NAZI.

    Oops...I forgot. Jews are the bad guy now. So the Nazi brand has shifted to the flavor of the day.

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    Re: “Conservative” nationalism subverts individual liberty

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Guess I'm gonna have to put you on ignore too, especially if you quote that piece of filth.
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    Typical socialist/communist/ democrat strategy, take their words and give them a new meaning. Johnny should have taken that Americanism vs Communism course that Tech required when I graduated, one of the best courses that I ever took, even though I didn't know it at the time.

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    Re: “Conservative” nationalism subverts individual liberty

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    But, since you did....did I not say that the left's obvious strategy with the "nationalism" label was a vain attempt to link Conservatives to the Nazi’s
    They call themselves nationalists. Right Pawdawg?

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    Obviously most of Trump’s “supporters” are not nationalists, but nationalism is where all the “energy” is on the right just as the left is the branch of the Dems that has the most energy and passion. Y’all should pay attention to this branch of the right. They aren’t conservative.
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    Re: “Conservative” nationalism subverts individual liberty

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    They call themselves nationalists. Right Pawdawg?
    You seem to be really getting off on this stuff. Is doing God's work not working out for you anymore? You should make a good democrat.

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    Re: “Conservative” nationalism subverts individual liberty

    Quote Originally Posted by DONW View Post
    You seem to be really getting off on this stuff. Is doing God's work not working out for you anymore? You should make a good democrat.
    The Lord works in mysterious ways Don. I haven’t been in vocational ministry in 5 years, so you’ll have to find a new way to make fun of me.

    Sorry for the inconvenience.

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