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    Thoughts on the new law concerning college athletes in California?

    What say you?

    I have questions about what this will do to scheduling, further separation of P5 and G5, increased payout for money games, and ego management.

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    Re: Thoughts on the new law concerning college athletes in California?

    Havent looked too hard at it, I thought it just let players profit off themselves.

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    Re: Thoughts on the new law concerning college athletes in California?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tech52 View Post
    Havent looked too hard at it, I thought it just let players profit off themselves.
    On its face it does. I think it will have a lot of detrimental unintended affects.

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    Re: Thoughts on the new law concerning college athletes in California?

    It's a new reality. It's going to happen around the country as more and more states follow the California law.

    But read the fine print...the California law only applies to 4 schools: USC, UCLA, Cal & Stanford. This is going to be a P5 thing.

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    Re: Thoughts on the new law concerning college athletes in California?

    Quote Originally Posted by tenacious_dog View Post
    It's a new reality. It's going to happen around the country as more and more states follow the California law.

    But read the fine print...the California law only applies to 4 schools: USC, UCLA, Cal & Stanford. This is going to be a P5 thing.
    Where do you see that? Pretty sure you are forgetting San Jose State, San Diego State, and Fresno State, in addition to FCS and D2 teams I don't feel like looking up.

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    Re: Thoughts on the new law concerning college athletes in California?

    So, California will gain some young income taxpayers from four institutions of higher education.
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    Re: Thoughts on the new law concerning college athletes in California?

    Quote Originally Posted by tenacious_dog View Post
    It's a new reality. It's going to happen around the country as more and more states follow the California law.

    But read the fine print...the California law only applies to 4 schools: USC, UCLA, Cal & Stanford. This is going to be a P5 thing.
    So if things follow the same path in Louisiana, that means that only that big school down South's players will be able to earn?

    I think another way to consider is that whatever the NCAA or a school profit from an individual player's likeness, clothing, etc. should be split heavily in favor (percentage wise) to the player. That money will placed in an account that the player can access upon graduation or when their eligibility expires.

    The appeal of college is that it is not about the money (supposedly). But if the NCAA, schools, coaches are all making big bucks off of these players and players not getting a dime, is not right.

    Here is Skip, Shannon, and Snoop discussing.. https://youtu.be/ORgh6wqf-sk

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    Re: Thoughts on the new law concerning college athletes in California?

    Quote Originally Posted by zharkins View Post
    Where do you see that? Pretty sure you are forgetting San Jose State, San Diego State, and Fresno State, in addition to FCS and D2 teams I don't feel like looking up.
    I believe the law only applies to schools with $10 million or more in media revenue.

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    Re: Thoughts on the new law concerning college athletes in California?

    Quote Originally Posted by zharkins View Post
    Where do you see that? Pretty sure you are forgetting San Jose State, San Diego State, and Fresno State, in addition to FCS and D2 teams I don't feel like looking up.
    Was listening to Dan Patrick earlier today and he reported the new law only applied to schools with 10 million or more in media revenue. Which he said was USC, UCLA, Stanford & Cal.

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    Re: Thoughts on the new law concerning college athletes in California?

    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    What say you?

    I have questions about what this will do to scheduling, further separation of P5 and G5, increased payout for money games, and ego management.
    ESPN's Tom Luginbill reported yesterday that there is a working group of NCAA member administrators looking at this issue and what might be able to be allowed. However, it looks like what they have in mind would be far more restrictive than what California is allowing under this law.

    I think over the next few years so will see this in federal court and then whatever the lower courts decide you'll eventually see this in the Supreme Court. At that level I think the State of California would lose. Not to get into all of the arguments for an against, but I think it comes down to one thing at that level. Ultimately the SC members - liberal and conservative - are academics. All of them. They've all taught. If the presidents of these four schools - especially Stanford - comes down and says this is detrimental to not only his school but the entire NCAA the Justices will side with him/her.

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    Re: Thoughts on the new law concerning college athletes in California?

    Generally, I support it. I even like it better than the "cost-of-living stipend" baloney that started up not long ago. Call me a fuddy-duddy, but I do maintain that students athletes should be amateur athletes. That is, they shouldn't get paid to play.

    However, if a Tech running back could make a few bucks by shilling for a local car dealer on a billboard, that doesn't strike me as materially different from manning the fryer at Captain Ds on a weeknight shift.

    If anyone still had reservations about it ... I'd say put any earnings in escrow / trust that the player can access upon graduation.

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    Re: Thoughts on the new law concerning college athletes in California?

    Quote Originally Posted by Champ967 View Post
    Generally, I support it. I even like it better than the "cost-of-living stipend" baloney that started up not long ago. Call me a fuddy-duddy, but I do maintain that students athletes should be amateur athletes. That is, they shouldn't get paid to play.

    However, if a Tech running back could make a few bucks by shilling for a local car dealer on a billboard, that doesn't strike me as materially different from manning the fryer at Captain Ds on a weeknight shift.

    If anyone still had reservations about it ... I'd say put any earnings in escrow / trust that the player can access upon graduation.
    Thats my stance. If Dawghouse wants J’Mar to do a radio ad or Rocketfast Carwash wants Amik on a billboard, they should be allowed to take that opportunity. Its then up to the player to get paid, not the school. Just like any other student.

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    Re: Thoughts on the new law concerning college athletes in California?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Historian View Post
    I believe the law only applies to schools with $10 million or more in media revenue.
    Ah, that is what I was missing. The $10,000,000 threshold was set in 2012 for the "Student Athlete Bill of Rights" law. So this law falls under that provision without specifically mentioning the $10,000,000 in the law. The summary on a different tab put all the pieces together.

    https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200SB206


    An athletic association, conference, or other group or organization with authority over intercollegiate athletics, including, but not limited to, the National Collegiate Athletic Association, shall not prevent a postsecondary educational institution from participating in intercollegiate athletics as a result of the compensation of a student athlete for the use of the student’s name, image, or likeness.

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    ow can California legislate that the NCAA can't kick those schools out? That would be like if Louisiana got a law passed that no conference could ever kick us out. No matter how I feel in all of this, I hate how California always does crap like this...I mean, there are always extra large tags on pillows and stuffed animals, that have legal notices on them because of California, just to rub it in our faces.

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    Re: Thoughts on the new law concerning college athletes in California?

    Quote Originally Posted by Champ967 View Post
    Generally, I support it. I even like it better than the "cost-of-living stipend" baloney that started up not long ago. Call me a fuddy-duddy, but I do maintain that students athletes should be amateur athletes. That is, they shouldn't get paid to play.

    However, if a Tech running back could make a few bucks by shilling for a local car dealer on a billboard, that doesn't strike me as materially different from manning the fryer at Captain Ds on a weeknight shift.

    If anyone still had reservations about it ... I'd say put any earnings in escrow / trust that the player can access upon graduation.
    5 star QB recruit out of Texas is choosing between Alabama and LSU...but there is an open bidding war between a Lawyer in Birmingham and a Car Dealership in Baton Rouge and the current offer is $500,000 a year to have his pic on billboards if he plays for their school. That times thousands of players at lower amounts. That is what will happen on day 1. Every dollar of under the table money would immediately go above the table and multiply with risk no longer involved.

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    Re: Thoughts on the new law concerning college athletes in California?

    California doing this is not surprising. They are all about capitalism.

    Which state will be next? IMO, and based one of the first comments from the NCAA it will take more than one state to screw up the NCAA. Otherwise the NCAA can just ban those who choose not to comply.

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