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    Re: Abraham Butt Lickers

    Jmar couldn’t hold Luke’s jock strap! Stats be damned!

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    Re: Abraham Butt Lickers

    Quote Originally Posted by StrongBad View Post
    Yet, Jack Abraham is currently #4 in the nation. I think the joke is on you.

    One good quarter by J'Mar doesn't constitute being a better quarterback, but the J'Mar that showed up in the 4th quarter is a better quarterback. I would like to believe that's the guy Skip Holtz saw when he selected him. I hope for J'Mar's continued success and wish him no ill will. He is currently 19th in the nation, which is impressive. I mean, 19 out of all 415 passers in FBS football IS impressive.

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    No, no... 415 passers? 3rd string QBs don't count. And he's frickin' 19th! That's NINETEENTH!!! Sucks.

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    19th doesn’t suck...

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    I warned this forum too many Tech fans have "dumbed-down" the importance of the position of Tech QB. 19th DOES SUCK for a Tech QB.

    Oh, we were told this would be Smith's year! He's a 5th year senior, why, just look how productive Tech QBs have been as seniors (truth), but this guy...nope! VERY MEDIOCRE. And "mediocre" is the best you can say about him.

    Of course, unless we get one of those grad transfers to save us from Skippy, I suppose we're looking at just more mediocre QBing next year.

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    Re: Abraham Butt Lickers

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    I warned this forum too many Tech fans have "dumbed-down" the importance of the position of Tech QB. 19th DOES SUCK for a Tech QB.

    Oh, we were told this would be Smith's year! He's a 5th year senior, why, just look how productive Tech QBs have been as seniors (truth), but this guy...nope! VERY MEDIOCRE. And "mediocre" is the best you can say about him.

    Of course, unless we get one of those grad transfers to save us from Skippy, I suppose we're looking at just more mediocre QBing next year.
    I don't think so. I think the best is yet to come, with Aaron Allen at QB next year. That kid is as "gamer"....not quite as measured as J'Mar. He seems to be much more aggressive than J'Mar, but with a good touch on his passes. Also, Allen wants to put the ball in the end zone every play. LOL! I think we'll see some truly outstanding QB play from him next year. We'll see, of course.

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    Re: Abraham Butt Lickers

    As long as we have a solid backup next year, I think Allen could do as well as J’Mar at the very least.

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    Re: Abraham Butt Lickers

    Quote Originally Posted by Tech52 View Post
    As long as we have a solid backup next year, I think Allen could do as well as J’Mar at the very least.
    Do as well? That's it!? Egads!

    Another mediocre day on the Island of Bora Bora...

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    Re: Abraham Butt Lickers

    Do we well as JMar this year is a tall order. He's a way above average quarterback this year.

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    Re: Abraham Butt Lickers

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Do as well? That's it!? Egads!

    Another mediocre day on the Island of Bora Bora...
    Yes, the kid’s got talent, but he’s never started here. I don’t expect him to be leagues better in his first year. Playing as well as JMar this year would be good.

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    Re: Abraham Butt Lickers

    Are we jumping to conclusions that Allen will be the starter next season? I am hoping so based on the limited play we have seen from the backups so far, but who knows what the head ball coach may be thinking or decide.

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    Re: Abraham Butt Lickers

    Allen moved up to QB2

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    Re: Abraham Butt Lickers

    Quote Originally Posted by LEEDAWG View Post
    Are we jumping to conclusions that Allen will be the starter next season? I am hoping so based on the limited play we have seen from the backups so far, but who knows what the head ball coach may be thinking or decide.
    I recall another backup we were very excited to see that didn't work out.

    Many such cases.

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    Re: Abraham Butt Lickers

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    I warned this forum too many Tech fans have "dumbed-down" the importance of the position of Tech QB. 19th DOES SUCK for a Tech QB.

    Oh, we were told this would be Smith's year! He's a 5th year senior, why, just look how productive Tech QBs have been as seniors (truth), but this guy...nope! VERY MEDIOCRE. And "mediocre" is the best you can say about him.

    Of course, unless we get one of those grad transfers to save us from Skippy, I suppose we're looking at just more mediocre QBing next year.
    Tim Rattay led the nation in passing yards and TDs in 1998. He was third in the nation in completion percentage, fourth in efficiency. He had an incredible year, the best we've ever seen at Tech. The next year, he led the country again in passing yards (as well as completions) and was second in TDs. I think we measure every QB on that standard, which is absolutely ludicrous.

    Luke McCown finished in the top 10 in passing yards and TDs as a sophomore (8th), but he was not nearly as efficient. He didn't finish in the top 20 in completion percentage or efficiency, and he was in the top 10 for interceptions. He was back in the top 10 for passing yards (9th) as a junior, but he wasn't in the top 20 for TDs, completion percentage or efficiency. He was fifth in the country with 19 interceptions. He fell to 18th in passing yards as a senior (so I guess he sucked that year) and remained out of the top 20 in TDs, completion percentage and efficiency. Even as a senior, he threw 14 interceptions, which tied for 12th in the country.

    Matt Dunigan finished in the top 20 in passing yards once in his career, as a junior, when he was 18th nationally.

    Colby Cameron was seventh in the nation in passing yards in 2012, sixth in completion percentage, and 12th in passing TDs.

    Ryan Higgins had the second-best year for a Tech QB ever, finishing second in passing yards and tying for third in TDs in 2016. He was sixth in efficiency and 11th in completion percentage. Jeff Driskel was 11th in passing yards in 2015. Cody Sokol finished just outside of the top 20 in passing yards in 2014 and tied for 11th in TDs.

    Those three guys are the guys that J'Mar should be compared against because it's the same offense with the same system. He's not having the caliber year that Higgins or Driskel had, but his season might be better than Sokol's when all is said and done. Is it a truly elite performance? No, but I'd hardly say he has sucked. He's improved his completion percentage, yards per attempt, yards per game and efficiency. At the end of the season, he should have more TDs and less INTs than he did the past two years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theprofessor View Post
    Tim Rattay led the nation in passing yards and TDs in 1998. He was third in the nation in completion percentage, fourth in efficiency. He had an incredible year, the best we've ever seen at Tech. The next year, he led the country again in passing yards (as well as completions) and was second in TDs. I think we measure every QB on that standard, which is absolutely ludicrous.

    Luke McCown finished in the top 10 in passing yards and TDs as a sophomore (8th), but he was not nearly as efficient. He didn't finish in the top 20 in completion percentage or efficiency, and he was in the top 10 for interceptions. He was back in the top 10 for passing yards (9th) as a junior, but he wasn't in the top 20 for TDs, completion percentage or efficiency. He was fifth in the country with 19 interceptions. He fell to 18th in passing yards as a senior (so I guess he sucked that year) and remained out of the top 20 in TDs, completion percentage and efficiency. Even as a senior, he threw 14 interceptions, which tied for 12th in the country.

    Matt Dunigan finished in the top 20 in passing yards once in his career, as a junior, when he was 18th nationally.

    Colby Cameron was seventh in the nation in passing yards in 2012, sixth in completion percentage, and 12th in passing TDs.

    Ryan Higgins had the second-best year for a Tech QB ever, finishing second in passing yards and tying for third in TDs in 2016. He was sixth in efficiency and 11th in completion percentage. Jeff Driskel was 11th in passing yards in 2015. Cody Sokol finished just outside of the top 20 in passing yards in 2014 and tied for 11th in TDs.

    Those three guys are the guys that J'Mar should be compared against because it's the same offense with the same system. He's not having the caliber year that Higgins or Driskel had, but his season might be better than Sokol's when all is said and done. Is it a truly elite performance? No, but I'd hardly say he has sucked. He's improved his completion percentage, yards per attempt, yards per game and efficiency. At the end of the season, he should have more TDs and less INTs than he did the past two years.
    The game has changed a lot since 1998. Comparing a current college QB to Dunigan and Rattay is not a fair comparison. Rattay had 153 carries in his Tech career for a negative 103 yards. Maybe he would have been successful with the RPO, maybe not.

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    Re: Abraham Butt Lickers

    Mediocrity is an insidious disease. It creeps in, unseen. Often it starts as an "off day." The victim doesn't even notice it really. Then there's another "off day" and the victim finds an excuse. A few "okay" days mix in with more and more "off" days and this suddenly becomes the norm. It is a common trait of "Creeping Mediocrity" for the victim(s) to be in denial. They get defensive when others ask what's wrong? "Nothing is wrong!" the victim will insist, "I am the same as I was last month...and the month before that."

    The final stage of the denial, in this horrible disease, is when the victim(s) start trotting out meaningless stats comparing apples to oranges. Don't attempt to point out the obvious fallacy in their stats. They'll just go ballistic, start calling you names. The final overall stage is horrible. The victim(s) sits in the corner just babbling, "He is a rock star. I know it's true. He is a rock star."

    The Center for Disease Control deals with a lot of such cases during the fall, mostly September through November.

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