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Well, first of all that did not happen, but....Originally Posted by Guisslapp
I'd rather someone go to a foreign power for help (you know, like Hillary did in 2016) than abuse the very establishments that are supposedly there to defend our democracy to attack a political candidate or party (IRS, CIA, FBI and the whole Justice Department). These are both in the dem playbook, not in the repub one.
I know the DNC cheats at elections. And they practice questionable ethical policies, which BTW, is their right to do. It sometimes requires remembering that ALL political parties, including the two major parties, are PRIVATE organizations who can apply whatever rules they want. Too many people, voters, think that the Dem Party and the Repub Party are government, taxpayer-supported agencies...well, I suppose in a way, they are!
Beyond that, how stupid does one have to be to be fooled into voting based on Facebook posts...oh, never mind, that describes the entire Dem voting base.
What foreign power did HIllary go to in 2016?
You guys keep inventing “whataboutisms” that are nothing like what happened with Trump just to ignore the implications of accepting what he did. This was the swampiest thing ever.
Republicans, assuming they vote to acquit, are damning up the swamp by declaring self-dealing, corruption, and election cheating unimpeachable.
Bernie's still got the lead in Iowa. That doesn't say much for Biden that he can't beat a communist.
This is a really good speech by Herschmann, especially the part about Obama asking the Russian for help in the upcoming 2012 election. Obama didn't know he was on a hot mike and nobody ever asked him what he meant. This video explains what he meant. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biwhx_Dy5dI
Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014 and took the Crimean Pen. Obama withheld missiles from Ukraine that would have helped them fight the Russians.
So what was the quid pro quo?
How did Russia help him in the 2012 election?
Withholding the missiles from Ukraine helped Russia in their attack on Ukraine. Ukraine never got lethal weapons until Trump became president. The Russians most likely campaigned for him on the internet. Don't forget the reset button that Hillary gave them.
Exactly. You and I might disagree with Obama’s foreign policy, but this is not corruption and self-dealing.
The democrats would disagree with you.
Dude, you’re the one inventing shit. You did it for two years with the Mueller report, now this. Anything Trump has done is no different from what every politician does and has done. You just hate Trump, and because of that, nothing you say has any credibility.
No one has yet to suggest anything remotely similar that any other politician has ever done - other than Nixon.
You believe the 75% lie?
Right, using the DNC to pay for the dossier that would later be used by your heros at the FBI to get illegal warrents. That's not a big deal...
She indirectly paid a foreigner, but not a foreign government, to get opposition research, which she never used. Not REMOTELY in the same ball park. Not even a big deal.
Any mistake the FBI made in their handling of them - not on the person in the DNC that gave it to them.
You guys are supporting corruption, self dealing and cheating in elections. Just remember that you guys supported this when it becomes the norm. This was not how our country worked before, but you can be damned well sure it is open season now. And it won’t just be Trump anymore.
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