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    Re: Why no Trump impeachment thread on Paw-Litics???

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    First, it actually was delayed - it didn’t get to Ukraine as scheduled. You are falling for another Trump lie.

    Second, it only went out when it did because a whistleblower complaint was filed and Trump got caught. That doesn’t excuse his abuse of power.
    Doesn't matter any more.

    Trump Acquitted!

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    Re: Why no Trump impeachment thread on Paw-Litics???

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Is it just a coincidence that the aid was released (after being delayed for months) within two days of the House Intel committee being notified of the whistleblower complaint?
    Doesn't matter any more.

    Trump Acquitted!

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    Re: Why no Trump impeachment thread on Paw-Litics???

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    The difference is that the Dems are on the side of the facts and the Constitution.
    No they weren't!

    But it doesn't matter any more.

    Trump Acquitted!

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    Re: Why no Trump impeachment thread on Paw-Litics???

    It does matter, because now it is time to hold the Republicans accountable for not upholding their duty.

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    Re: Why no Trump impeachment thread on Paw-Litics???

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    It does matter, because now it is time to hold the Republicans accountable for not upholding their duty.
    We are waiting for the crazy arse and hater libs to try impeachment again! Please!!!

    But it doesn't matter any more.

    Trump Acquitted!

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    Re: Why no Trump impeachment thread on Paw-Litics???

    A senator said on Hannity tonight that the Senate had acquired Hunter Biden's banking records.

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    Re: Why no Trump impeachment thread on Paw-Litics???

    Quote Originally Posted by DONW View Post
    A senator said on Hannity tonight that the Senate had acquired Hunter Biden's banking records.
    So?

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    Re: Why no Trump impeachment thread on Paw-Litics???

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    It does matter, because now it is time to hold the Republicans accountable for not upholding their duty.
    That is your opinion counselor, they did their duty. You are an attorney. How do you reconcile when things do not go the way you expect in court? Juries and judges daily make renderings that may or may not be what you personally believe is what the outcome should be, but that is our legal system. Many believe that the House Managers did not prove their case. You believe that anyone who doesn't think or come to the same conclusion you do means that they are somehow not as smart.

    Example: You have made comments early on in Trumps admin that he had put in place a Muslim ban, which was not true. A judge, placed an injunction and tried to stop the ban. USSC ruled in favor of Trump. How do you reconcile this? Are the justices just stupid or partisan unable to make a fair decision based upon legal precedence and merits of the case brought before the court? I personally think Schiff, Pelosi and many other democrats have weaponized the impeachment process which was not the intention of the founding fathers. As in most "new" breaks from tradition usually the democrats are the ones who do it, such as Harry Reid's use of nuclear option in Senate. Democrats do this and then cry foul when it is used against them. Do not get upset if this ever gets used against a democratic POTUS.

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    Re: Why no Trump impeachment thread on Paw-Litics???

    Quote Originally Posted by FriscoDog View Post
    That is your opinion counselor, they did their duty. You are an attorney. How do you reconcile when things do not go the way you expect in court? Juries and judges daily make renderings that may or may not be what you personally believe is what the outcome should be, but that is our legal system. Many believe that the House Managers did not prove their case. You believe that anyone who doesn't think or come to the same conclusion you do means that they are somehow not as smart.

    Example: You have made comments early on in Trumps admin that he had put in place a Muslim ban, which was not true. A judge, placed an injunction and tried to stop the ban. USSC ruled in favor of Trump. How do you reconcile this? Are the justices just stupid or partisan unable to make a fair decision based upon legal precedence and merits of the case brought before the court? I personally think Schiff, Pelosi and many other democrats have weaponized the impeachment process which was not the intention of the founding fathers. As in most "new" breaks from tradition usually the democrats are the ones who do it, such as Harry Reid's use of nuclear option in Senate. Democrats do this and then cry foul when it is used against them. Do not get upset if this ever gets used against a democratic POTUS.
    The Supreme Court doesn’t always get it right. How does the minority on a Supreme Court decision reconcile the issue when they write a minority opinion saying the majority got it wrong?

    By the way, it was the third Muslim ban that the majority upheld. The Trump administration bailed on its first two attempts, which may not have gotten approval from a majority.

    Normally, in a trial, if a juror in voire dire says “I won’t be a fair juror”, they are immediately stricken for cause. So this “jury” situation is entirely unique.

    These Republican Senators, at least most of them, are being disingenuous. Never before in the history of impeachment trials have all witnesses been excluded. They voted as a coordinated block hoping to make their job as jurors easier.

    There is no doubt that Trump did what was alleged. The fact that many Republicans that voted to block witnesses is at least a tacit acknowledgement that whatever Bolton said wouldn’t matter. To conclude that means that you would have to first assume that he would say that “Trump told me that he held up the aid and the meeting for a personal political favor.”

    A significant number of Republicans took the position that he did what they said he did, it is not impeachable. Those that took that position, knew they were taking an extreme position that only Dershowitz 2.0 agrees with (Dershowitz 1.0 didn’t). He gave them political cover to say what they said, but most of those Senators are lawyers and recognize that it is an inane legal argument.

    In the end, everyone knows these Republican senators were going to be in lockstep with Trump no matter what. They know that their Republican base lives in the same alternate reality, low information, FoxNews universe that will not only excuse their conduct but will celebrate it.

    And that is what the problem is. Folks are too happy to live in their information comfort zones, which has led to the complete fragmentation of news reporting. Those that stay in their information comfort zones live in an entirely different world than those that live outside of it. If you aren’t constantly challenging your worldview with information coming from outside your favorite channels, then this divide will only grow.

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    Re: Why no Trump impeachment thread on Paw-Litics???

    Meanwhile Slick Willy sold missile guidance technology to the Chicoms who also funneled money to his 1996 campaign thru Chinese monks.

    obummer sold machineguns to the Mexican drug cartels to hopefully cause mass killings in the US i.e. dead Americans, so the country would be outraged and demand extreme gun control.

    Krooked Killary paid for a fake dossier to be used as a political weapon.

    Etc....

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    Re: Why no Trump impeachment thread on Paw-Litics???

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Meanwhile Slick Willy sold missile guidance technology to the Chicoms who also funneled money to his 1996 campaign thru Chinese monks.

    obummer sold machineguns to the Mexican drug cartels to hopefully cause mass killings in the US i.e. dead Americans, so the country would be outraged and demand extreme gun control.

    Krooked Killary paid for a fake dossier to be used as a political weapon.

    Etc....
    You left out Reagan. Why? Remember, he sold weapons to Iran to secretly fund Socialist Contras in Nicaragua.

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    Re: Why no Trump impeachment thread on Paw-Litics???

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    You left out Reagan. Why? Remember, he sold weapons to Iran to secretly fund Socialist Contras in Nicaragua.
    Wrong! that has all been debunked. Besides, he was alleged to have sold weapons to the anti-commies in Nicaragua. If you're gonna post lies, at least get your lies right.

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    Re: Why no Trump impeachment thread on Paw-Litics???

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Wrong! that has all been debunked. Besides, he was alleged to have sold weapons to the anti-commies in Nicaragua. If you're gonna post lies, at least get your lies right.
    Debunked where?

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    Re: Why no Trump impeachment thread on Paw-Litics???

    So, if the Supreme Court can get things wrong, conservatives are completely justified in our opposition to Roe v Wade and that it was unconstitutional.

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    Re: Why no Trump impeachment thread on Paw-Litics???

    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    So, if the Supreme Court can get things wrong, conservatives are completely justified in our opposition to Roe v Wade and that it was unconstitutional.
    What is your constitutional objection to Roe v Wade? Have you read the opinion?

    Have you thought about the implications of abandoning the principle of stare decisis?

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