Agreed.Originally Posted by Bulldog Tom
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Agreed.
Already posted numerous times.
How do you know they he had not already reached the point of "if continued repeated offenses" and they had already given him a number of passes?
I guess I missed it. Since it's such a simple solution please post again. Hopefully you will be able to get the truth from our AD when you guys are rubbing elbows in the Presidential Suite at the Indy Bowl.
I don't know anything except that the first suspension from actual games was for 2 and not one.
That's certainly a head scratcher, but it tells me there is a reason other than stupidity or spite.
It's not a head scratcher if that's our policy. If this was truly his second failed test and our policy (which we communicated to the NCAA) was that there was no suspension until the second failed test AND that that failed test results in a 2 game suspension, then we were just following policy.
As it has been explained here, it seems we set the policy and the NCAA makes sure that we're following our policy.
The statements about them giving him multiple chances are confusing to me. I suppose they can have discretion in certain things, but it doesn't seem as though there's much discretion in a failed banned substance test.
If the rumor is true that he opted for the B test, in retrospect, it would've been much better had he sat for UNT and Marshall (unless he could've chosen UNT and UTSA).
There certainly seems to be more cloudiness than clarity in my view, but, that ship has sailed.
Time is your friend. Impulse is your enemy. -John Bogle
Louisiana Tech = QB U. Maybe not, but we have had some good ones come through here. Kickers too (Chris Boniol, Matt Stover, Josh Scobee, Ryan Allen).
I suppose I should have said IDK instead of it's a head scratcher.
"there's a reason other than stupidity or spite" = policy
Holtz would have told him to begin taking his punishment (miss UNT) when the A test came out positive if he thought it was better for the team. I'm not a fan of Holtz critical decision making skills, but IMO he was flipping a coin at the time. There was still a lot to shake out in the West.
This is mostly unrelated to this silly thread that started as trolling but got spun into a couple of semi-serious conversations (BB&B man, you just never know), but I was trying to find a list of Tim Rattay's 500+ yard passing games.
Obviously Nebraska '98. I assume USL and ASU of that year. But box scores have been harder to come by than I expected. Anybody know?
Wait -- you dont think this thread began in complete earnest?
I had some numbers on Colby too. Just got tired of typing honestly, the more I looked into it the more people I thought would more above Smith so the list was getting long. Almost all of these guys given the same amount of games would have 3000 or so more yards and way more TD's etc. His INT's are the only area where he has a clear lead. I think Smith's completion percentage this year was around 65%, but the two previous years was like 55-57%. So if you make a case for Smith you really have to lean yard on this one season, because 17 and 18 weren't very good for him overall.
Although the way we slung the ball all over during Tim's time, 35 INT's over three years is actually impressive as well. I would take an almost 38 TD to 12 INT ratio every year and say thank you.
Last edited by DallasDog; 12-12-2019 at 11:30 AM.
You can't have the words Smith and GOAT in a thread title, and not have actual facts to dispute it. Other CUSA'ers etc might actually think he is the best we have had.
1 Tim Rattay 590 1998 Nebraska 2 Tim Rattay 561 1999 UCF 3 Jason Martin 542 1996 Toledo 4 Tim Rattay 539 1998 Boise State 5 Tim Rattay 524 1998 UCF 6 Tim Rattay 510 1997 Central Michigan 7 Tim Rattay 508 1998 Arkansas State Tim Rattay 508 1999 Toledo 9 Ryan Higgins 504[4] 2016 Middle Tennessee 10 Ryan Higgins 502[5] 2016 Western Kentucky
(C-USA Championship Game)
Wow ... 4 of the top 10 occurred in a single 6-6 season.
Thanks. Read an article about how Steve McNair had the most 500+ yard games in a season and I knew Tim had a lot (and I found something that said he had 7, but I couldn't find the games to sort them by season).
On a different note, it's amazing how many of those were losses - I guess when you're down you're more likely to pass more. I guess Texas Tech probably has some 500+ yard passing games that resulted in losses.
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