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    Re: SGA sends out Student Athletic Fee Survey to current student body

    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    When I was there, in early 2000’s, parking was $28 for the year. I forget what the bump was, but when it happened, some folks went ballistic.
    Parking is currently $100 per year, excluding summer, and a parking ticket is now $20.

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    Re: SGA sends out Student Athletic Fee Survey to current student body

    Quote Originally Posted by ETxBullDawg View Post
    For comparison purposes this is off campus (no dorm nor meals) for Louisiana Tech Fall Qtr 2019...
    1319 WEB CHECK PMT 12306 0821 -3,078.00 -3,079.00
    2012 UNDG TUITION 12 HR 0904 1,851.00 -1,228.00
    2032 UNDG FEES 12 HR 0904 1,594.00 366.00
    2690 LAGNIAPPE FEE 0904 30.00 396.00
    2642 TECHNOLOGY FEE-12+HR 0904 60.00 456.00
    2592 ENERGY SURCHRGE-12HR 0904 80.00 536.00
    2630 ENGINEERING/SCIENCES 0904 60.00 596.00
    2625 E&S LAB SUPPORT FEE 0904 70.00 666.00
    1260 OUTSTANDING STUDENT 0904 -666.00 0.00
    Where is the student facility enhancement fee, the one being used to pay off the SEZ project? Our students are already being hit with that fee which is similar to an athletic fee. Adding another would probably meet with resistance.

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    Re: SGA sends out Student Athletic Fee Survey to current student body

    Quote Originally Posted by Dowty View Post
    Just over $500/year is not bad. You can make up a lot of that cost by attending athletic events throughout the year without having to purchase a ticket. I wouldn't have had a problem with that as a student.

    What the SGA should do during this process is tell Tommy that they aren't going to increase his budget by 25% unless he does more on his end to enhance the experience for students.
    Good idea.

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    Re: SGA sends out Student Athletic Fee Survey to current student body

    Quote Originally Posted by dawgcrazy View Post
    This flier needs to be put under every dorm and Tech apartment room door as well as on every windshield in student parking. Heck email it as well.

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    Re: SGA sends out Student Athletic Fee Survey to current student body

    Quote Originally Posted by Exes&Ohs View Post
    Where is the student facility enhancement fee, the one being used to pay off the SEZ project? Our students are already being hit with that fee which is similar to an athletic fee. Adding another would probably meet with resistance.
    That is a limited time fee, tied to construction and for paying off that construction only fee. Athletic fees like the ones being talked about are permanent ongoing fees that the department can use any way they want (Operating expenses or to finance future construction). The big issue has always been that supposedly the state offsets any operating fee by reducing the amount Tech can transfer into athletics, so it's zero gain for the department, but would gain the school more money overall.

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    Re: SGA sends out Student Athletic Fee Survey to current student body

    Quote Originally Posted by GermDawg View Post
    That is a limited time fee, tied to construction and for paying off that construction only fee. Athletic fees like the ones being talked about are permanent ongoing fees that the department can use any way they want (Operating expenses or to finance future construction). The big issue has always been that supposedly the state offsets any operating fee by reducing the amount Tech can transfer into athletics, so it's zero gain for the department, but would gain the school more money overall.
    I am concerned about this due to some future Tech grandchildren. That end zone fee, although limited in its duration, still has TWENTY years to go which far surpasses the time they will be in Ruston. So, this offset you mention, why add a fee on the students when it would be offset by reducing the amount transferred from the state? If its zero gain for the department then why transfer the load to the students rather than let the state continue its subsidy? You, I think, are "hearing" something that has no factual basis.

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    Re: SGA sends out Student Athletic Fee Survey to current student body

    I don't believe a student fee would result in a reduction of University support.

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    Re: SGA sends out Student Athletic Fee Survey to current student body

    Quote Originally Posted by Dowty View Post
    What is a reasonable amount to charge for a student athletic fee?
    My memory is we paid a $25/qtr athletic fee in the '70s

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    Re: SGA sends out Student Athletic Fee Survey to current student body

    Quote Originally Posted by DawgBark View Post
    I know the chart above shows $0... but somewhere around 1991 to 1992 the I thought the SGA president back then lobbied the students to approve some type of athletic fee that would be added to the cost of attending Louisiana Tech and the student body approved it; therefore, unless it had an expiration date it's already being charged. It may be that the SGA should be lobbying for the students to approve an increase in the fee. Maybe the fee was technically under a different name but I think it was used for athletics??


    For Comparison:

    One of my children chose to attend LSU BR and here's what the most recent costs were. 16 semester hours, living on campus and meal plan. I don't know which of these fees would be equivalent to an Athletic Fee (probably the Required Activity Fee)? I had one child attend Louisiana Tech and I know there were many similar fee categories but don't remember the dollar amounts. Remember to convert to Quarter system vs. Semester System when comparing.


    Spring Semester LSU BR 2020

    01/04/2020 Tuition
    4,014.55
    01/04/2020 Academic Excellence Fee
    245.00
    01/04/2020 Building Use Fee
    48.00
    01/04/2020 Residential Housing
    4,280.00
    01/04/2020 Operational Fee
    80.00
    01/04/2020 Required Activity Fees
    650.45
    01/04/2020 Registration Fee
    10.00
    01/04/2020 Student Excellence Fee
    857.00
    01/04/2020 Technology Fee
    75.00
    01/04/2020 12 Tiger Meal
    2,092.00
    $12,500/sem. Is my quick math correct. > $8350/qtr

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    Re: SGA sends out Student Athletic Fee Survey to current student body

    Quote Originally Posted by olddog75 View Post
    I don't believe a student fee would result in a reduction of University support.
    Correct. That was done away with several years ago. Northwestern State went to the ULS board asking them to do away with that restriction. Previously, any fee that wasn't for construction or to pay down construction related debt was deducted from a school's general fund transfer to athletics. The board agreed to allow NSU to impose the fee without the reduction.

    In the past 10 years or so, student votes to pass a fee at UNO narrowly failed. A vote of the student body at ULM was soundly defeated just a few years ago. At the same time, the Tech student body hasn't voted down a fee in at least the past 45 years. Most have passed easily.

    The last time a vote was even close was in 1992. The fee to build Centennial Plaza narrowly passed.

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    Re: SGA sends out Student Athletic Fee Survey to current student body

    One more thing worth mentioning. While the ULS Board has required a vote of the students in the past, it doesn't have to follow that vote. It can allow a school to impose the fee even with a "no" vote of the students.

    The same is true for the LSU Board of Supervisors. A little over 10 years ago LSU students narrowly defeated a fee increase to fund the renovation and expansion of the LSU Union. The LSU Board still implemented the fee.
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    Re: SGA sends out Student Athletic Fee Survey to current student body

    Quote Originally Posted by The Historian View Post
    One more thing worth mentioning. While the ULS Board has required a vote of the students in the past, it doesn't have to follow that vote. It can allow a school to impose the fee even with a "no" vote of the students.

    The same is true for the LSU Board of Supervisors. A little over 10 years ago LSU students narrowly defeated a fee increase to fund the renovation and expansion of the LSU Union. The LSU Board still implemented the fee.
    Then, “Let’s do it!”

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    Re: SGA sends out Student Athletic Fee Survey to current student body

    Quote Originally Posted by The Historian View Post
    One more thing worth mentioning. While the ULS Board has required a vote of the students in the past, it doesn't have to follow that vote. It can allow a school to impose the fee even with a "no" vote of the students.

    The same is true for the LSU Board of Supervisors. A little over 10 years ago LSU students narrowly defeated a fee increase to fund the renovation and expansion of the LSU Union. The LSU Board still implemented the fee.
    Aren't we mixing apples and oranges? Student ATHLETIC fees were banned by the regents until that rule was eliminated some 3-4yrs ago. One can now be initiated but only by an affirmative vote of the students. The SGA survey pertains only to athletic fees as I understand it.

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    Re: SGA sends out Student Athletic Fee Survey to current student body

    Quote Originally Posted by Exes&Ohs View Post
    Aren't we mixing apples and oranges? Student ATHLETIC fees were banned by the regents until that rule was eliminated some 3-4yrs ago. One can now be initiated but only by an affirmative vote of the students. The SGA survey pertains only to athletic fees as I understand it.
    Student athletic fees were never banned by the Regents. But any fee reduced the amount of the maximum general fund transfer dollar for dollar by the ULS via an internal policy for its' schools. Exceptions were made for athletic facilities and debt payments for athletic facilities. That changed when NSU went to the ULS Board and asked them to change the policy. And they did.

    The ULS requires a process to pass certain student fees that includes, among other things, support of the SGA Senate and SGA President along with a vote of the students. At the same time it doesn't have to follow that vote. It can impose the fee even with a "no" vote. The Regents don't require it of any of the systems they supervise.
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    Usm Re: SGA sends out Student Athletic Fee Survey to current student body

    You do realize that students attending on loans will be obligated to pay for those athletic fees with interest for the next 15-20 years, right? Would you be interested in increasing your student loans by 20-50% for athletes that 1) don't give a flip about a degree, 2) that aren't in general college population, and 3) are only there to collect a check?

    Is that right, good or proper? No, it's not. People wanting football/basketball/etc/ are not necessarily the same people anymore that want education.

    I like the idea of an athletic fee. I don't like how it ads debt to those that don't have cash to attend college. Just because government money is easy to come by, doesn't mean it's best for the school to take it.....and I despise Tech for taking the easy road, and eliminating most of its job placement options that were widely available in the early 90's.

    I think alumni should take the high road, and not commit current students to excessive debt to provide for their amusement.

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