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    Re: Covid - 19

    Emails between Fauci and NIH Director Francis Collins reveals truth about their roles in funding virus research at Wuhan that yielded the China Virus (aka COVID-19). Today, not surprisingly, Collins seeks to run for the hills and announces he is resigning from the NIH.

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    Re: Covid - 19

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Emails between Fauci and NIH Director Francis Collins reveals truth about their roles in funding virus research at Wuhan that yielded the China Virus (aka COVID-19). Today, not surprisingly, Collins seeks to run for the hills and announces he is resigning from the NIH.
    Also a little footnote of interest... they (whomever they are) have released the freeze on NIH gain of function funding.. so they are free to fund this again...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FriscoDog View Post
    Also a little footnote of interest... they (whomever they are) have released the freeze on NIH gain of function funding.. so they are free to fund this again...
    Another undo of something bad orange man did.

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    You guys are confused, it was under Trump when NIH lifted the funding pause on GOF.

    https://www.nih.gov/about-nih/who-we...ction-research

    https://grants.nih.gov/grants/guide/...OD-17-071.html

    The NIH under Obama instituted the pause in 2014.

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    Have covered some of the history of that Chinese woman scientist going from Canada, to UNC, to Wuhan, the latter move because the obummer admin did halt funding for the research. That's true, but unfortunately they did not stop that woman from taking all her data with her, and later the NIH started funding it all again, at Wuhan.

    And even if the Trump admin lifted the ban, does not mean that those in-the-know about such things should have sent money to the Chicoms. Just because you could, doesn't mean you should. Fauci is in this mess deep.

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    Re: Covid - 19

    September figures from Vermont blow the pro-vax narrative out of the water as only 8 of the state's 33 September deaths were from unvaccinated.

    76% of September Covid-19 deaths are vax breakthroughs – Vermont Daily Chronicle

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    Re: Covid - 19

    Quote Originally Posted by FriscoDawg View Post
    September figures from Vermont blow the pro-vax narrative out of the water as only 8 of the state's 33 September deaths were from unvaccinated.

    76% of September Covid-19 deaths are vax breakthroughs – Vermont Daily Chronicle
    And 88% of Vermont’s eligible people are vaccinated. Higher still when you just look at the elderly, which accounted for the deaths.

    If 100% of the people were vaccinated, 100% of covid deaths would be breakthrough cases. That doesn’t blow anything out of the water.

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    Re: Covid - 19

    Wow.. radical reporting by the WaPo.. Not sure how this got past the editors and puppet masters in the administration.. Someone will be fired over this article..


    WAPO: Natural immunity to covid is powerful. Policymakers seem afraid to say so.





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    It’s okay to have an incorrect scientific hypothesis. But when new data proves it wrong, you have to adapt. Unfortunately, many elected leaders and public health officials have held on far too long to the hypothesis that natural immunity offers unreliable protection against covid-19 — a contention that is being rapidly debunked by science.


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    Re: Covid - 19

    Quote Originally Posted by FriscoDog View Post
    Wow.. radical reporting by the WaPo.. Not sure how this got past the editors and puppet masters in the administration.. Someone will be fired over this article..


    WAPO: Natural immunity to covid is powerful. Policymakers seem afraid to say so.



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    It’s okay to have an incorrect scientific hypothesis. But when new data proves it wrong, you have to adapt. Unfortunately, many elected leaders and public health officials have held on far too long to the hypothesis that natural immunity offers unreliable protection against covid-19 — a contention that is being rapidly debunked by science.

    I said the same thing, natural immunity should be, one would think, the BEST protection against any virus or disease. But, after posting that our resident expert on everything, Goosey, said otherwise. I posted an article written by a doctor/researcher who stated that, he using his own experiences with fighting measles. But, Goosey declared that learned fellow to be a quack.

    The downside of relying on natural immunity for individual protection is having to get sick in the first place. For a sickness like the China Virus can invoke, that is dangerous for folks with pre-existing conditions that makes them more vulnerable to dire consequences. Therefore that "quack" recommended getting vaxxed and not having to suffer being sick from the virus.

    Yesterday, I had to cut off an old friend, who was wanting to cite new stats proving she is right about the whole vax/mask/virus hysteria. She is profoundly anti-vax, anti-mask and seeks to win others over to her side. I told her I have heard enough from both sides, from ALL sides of this argument. Do whatever you think is right for you, I said, and I will do the same.

    At this point, I am only interested in the world knowing the truth about how the Chicoms created and released this virus. Yes, it is still possible, and probable, the actual release was an accident, and the Chicoms did their best to try to cover it up. It is the "China Virus" and the scientific evidence is over-whelming on how this is an engineered virus, designed to attack humans. Regardless if this was an accidental release it is clear the Chicoms are responsible. When there is an accidental oil spill we don't brush off those responsible for it. Sure, it was an "accident" but they are still accountable for the damage caused. The world commies, through their propaganda machines, like the US lamestream media, have tried to deflect the blame, to protect the Chicoms.

    Then you have idiots on Internet forums who bristle at the mere use of the term "China virus" calling you a xenophobe, a racist. LOL! What useful morons they are for the commie bastards.

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    Re: Covid - 19

    Even people from Pfizer agree that natural immunity is better and they acknowledge that they aren’t allowed to talk about it at work.

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    Re: Covid - 19

    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    Even people from Pfizer agree that natural immunity is better and they acknowledge that they aren’t allowed to talk about it at work.
    What does a scientist from Pfizer know? Don't they know that Guisslapp already argued the opposite?

    Here, lemme post another thought that Guisslapp will scoff at and ridicule. The shot doesn't seem very effective at keeping you from getting OR spreading Covid. It does seem to keep you from being hospitalized in the same percentage and actually dying from the disease, however. Logic seems to indicate that we will reach herd immunity when at least 70% of the population have actually HAD Covid (either before or after the vaccine), and that seems to be rapidly approaching.

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    Re: Covid - 19

    Interesting article in WSJ:

    Science Closes In on Covid’s Origins


    This is a man made Bio Weapon Courtesy of The CCP.



    Coupled with there Evergrande issues and a possible revolution, the CCP just may Attack Taiwan and shut down the World.

    But a team of American scientists mutated the stem of the coronavirus genome in nearly 4,000 different ways and tested each variation. In the process they actually stumbled on the Delta variant. In the end, they determined that the original SARS-CoV-2 pathogen was 99.5% optimized for human infection—strong confirmation of the lab-leak hypothesis.

    SARS-CoV-2 contains a key mutation: the “furin cleavage site,” or FCS. This mutation is sufficiently complex that it couldn’t have been the result of spontaneous changes triggered, for example, by a mutagen or radiation. It could, however, have been inserted by nature or by humans. In nature the process is called recombination—a virus exchanges chunks of itself with another closely related virus when both infect the same cell. The National Institutes of Health database shows no FCS in more than 1,200 viruses that can exchange with SARS-CoV-2.


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