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    Re: Covid - 19

    Quote Originally Posted by Champ967 View Post
    I don't know any regular person who has died from coronas.

    You knew Frank; he died from coronas.

    Yeah, but he wasn't a REGULAR person.
    I already had you pegged as someone who hangs out with irregular people....

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    And please don't go there...

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    Re: Covid - 19

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Maybe. Well, I suppose if hypertension is a definite contributing factor to deaths caused by the C-19 virus, then that has to be considered. But, I don't see how it makes someone more prone to death by a virus. No, I am not a doctor, so I base this strictly on a layman's understanding of this health issue. C-19 is said to be dangerous because it attacks the respiratory system and those with health issues already hampering their lungs and the like would be particularly susceptible to this virus. But then the regular flu often leads to pneumonia, which is the real cause of death for many infected by a flu virus.

    Hypertension makes one more likely to suffer a stroke or a heart attack. I have not seen any mention at all of so-called "C-19 deaths" linked to strokes or heart attacks. And, if there are, then I say those are just more wrongly linked causes of death. The C-19 virus did not kill those people...their pre-existing hypertension did.

    Nope, this doesn't contribute to the discussion of "regular" people dying from this virus.
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0515115644.htm


    Because it interacts with/enters cells through the ACE2 receptor.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/theconv...explain-136928

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    Re: Covid - 19

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3240...Bt9MLW0f7NWvJQ

    Some interesting reading if Chinese are telling the truth.

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    Re: Covid - 19

    Lots of studies out there that masks have not been effective. Lots of warnings on boxes of masks that they do not prevent transmission of disease. Was the spread worsened by people getting a false sense of security the they could go out as long as their wear one?

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    WHO suspends its HCQ trial due to safety concerns.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/25/coro...-concerns.html

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    Re: Covid - 19

    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    Lots of studies out there that masks have not been effective. Lots of warnings on boxes of masks that they do not prevent transmission of disease. Was the spread worsened by people getting a false sense of security the they could go out as long as their wear one?
    If you think you are safe because you are wearing a mask you haven’t been paying attention. You wear it to reduce the distance and amount you transmit the virus if you have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    If you think you are safe because you are wearing a mask you haven’t been paying attention. You wear it to reduce the distance and amount you transmit the virus if you have it.
    That’s just it. Studies have shown that the masks don’t do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tech70 View Post
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3240...Bt9MLW0f7NWvJQ

    Some interesting reading if Chinese are telling the truth.

    https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/7/20-1595_article

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    Re: Covid - 19

    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    That’s just it. Studies have shown that the masks don’t do that.
    “Studies” (plural)? Are you talking about the one where people coughed through a mask a short distance from a Petri dish?

    If so, that very study showed reduction in particles with an mask and said further study needed to be done to see if masks affect the distance particles can travel. Low and behold, THAT study has been done and shows that masks DO reduce the distance water droplets carry.

    Again, the mask doesn’t stop transmission; it reduces it. It is to be used in combination with social distancing - not by itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tech70 View Post
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3240...Bt9MLW0f7NWvJQ

    Some interesting reading if Chinese are telling the truth.
    This studies concludes that asymptomatic "carriers" are not contagious. Goosey and his libtard cronies won't sit for that. Watch how fast this study is discredited.

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    Re: Covid - 19

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    This studies concludes that asymptomatic "carriers" are not contagious. Goosey and his libtard cronies won't sit for that. Watch how fast this study is discredited.
    A popular theory is that the strain of coronavirus that got here via Europe (hitting NYC and the most common one here in HOU) is more contagious than the original strain that hit the West Coast early on.

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    Re: Covid - 19

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    A popular theory is that the strain of coronavirus that got here via Europe (hitting NYC and the most common one here in HOU) is more contagious than the original strain that hit the West Coast early on.
    Of course it is a popular theory. That's the only way to explain what has been obvious since early April. I thought it was all about density. Now it's a different strain. Got it.

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    Re: Covid - 19

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    This studies concludes that asymptomatic "carriers" are not contagious. Goosey and his libtard cronies won't sit for that. Watch how fast this study is discredited.
    You should read the study. People were masked up (patients and doctors and family members). Seems to suggest that masks might be effective for controlling spread from asymptomatics. Article made this comment:

    Considering all the mentioned factors, we suggest that there are more important reasons for achieving “Zero infection”. As is well-known, person-to-person transmission through respiratory droplets is the main route of COVID-19 transmission [6]. Earlier research revealed that the viral load of respiratory tract samples in an asymptomatic patient was similar to that in the symptomatic patients [11]. However, a single sample is difficult to be representative. In the light of “Zero infection” for this case, we venture to guess that the viral load of respiratory tract samples in the asymptomatic patient might not be high. Moreover, although pathogenic nucleic acids can be detected in respiratory tract samples from asymptomatic carriers, the opportunity of transmission is less than that in symptomatic patient owing to the absence of the way expelling pathogen via cough and sneezing.

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    Re: Covid - 19

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Of course it is a popular theory. That's the only way to explain what has been obvious since early April. I thought it was all about density. Now it's a different strain. Got it.
    No one ever said it was only about density. That is clearly a factor. You are the one that insists on understanding complexity in only two dimensions.

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