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    Re: Covid - 19

    Also, if the 60-70 year old patients with underlying conditions who I know personally were going to get better in 2-3 days regardless, then the virus is actually no big deal. Thanks.

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    Re: Covid - 19

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Two points:

    1) China Virus patients treated with ivermectin recovered quicker than the placebo test group in official and scientifically accepted studies. Yes, the difference was small, but FWIW...

    2) If there is nothing to ivermectin in the treatment of the China Virus why is the NIH spending money/authorizing clinical studies on it re: virus treatment? They must have seen something in the data that indicates there may be something to it.
    1. This hasn’t been seen in randomized control trials. Without randomization and control, you introduce selection bias.

    2. They spend money on lots of things that don’t ultimately pan out.

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    Re: Covid - 19

    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    Also, if the 60-70 year old patients with underlying conditions who I know personally were going to get better in 2-3 days regardless, then the virus is actually no big deal. Thanks.
    Covid never killed all 60-70 year olds. Most recovered without treatment. That doesn’t mean it was no big deal.

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    Thanks for skipping the part about underlying conditions. That was supposed to be the death nail.

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    Re: Covid - 19

    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    Thanks for skipping the part about underlying conditions. That was supposed to be the death nail.
    Most with underlying conditions also got better. That doesn’t take away from the seriousness of it.

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    Re: Covid - 19

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    You are still getting snookered. Ivermectin has been approved for clinical trials - they have been doing that for over a year. They haven’t approved it as a treatment - that fact remains. By the way, the latest randomized control trial for ivermectin (posted in New England Journal of Medicine) showed the same thing as the others did - ivermectin is ineffective.

    The folks that you know that took ivermectin were going to get better in a couple of days even without taking it. Now if they had a parasite, ivermectin may have helped with that.
    This is just a pandemic of the unvaccinated. If you get vaccinated you won't transmit the virus. If you get vaccinated you won't have to go to the hospital. Natural immunity is inferior to vaccine immunity.

    Got it.

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    Re: Covid - 19

    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    All the sudden, ivermectin shows back up on the NIH site as a viable treatment. $3/bottle could have treated the entire country. But this isn’t political or money driven at all.
    Exactly. Big Pharma pressured all of the regulatory bodies who in turn pressured Big Government and Big Media to suppress any reasonable and cheap alternative treatment because it would have cut directly into Big Pharma's bottom line.

    The link I just posted about legal action in India goes directly to this point.

    Follow the money.

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    Re: Covid - 19

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    1. This hasn’t been seen in randomized control trials. Without randomization and control, you introduce selection bias.

    2. They spend money on lots of things that don’t ultimately pan out.
    Goosey is right on this point. I’m not anti-Ivermectin, but without randomized clinical trials, you have no idea whether it works or not. I’ve seen people that were really sick with Covid get better in a few days without treatment. A lot of people. If those same people would have been taking medicine x, they would have believed that it cured them when in fact, they got better on their own. Having said that, I hope it turns out to be an effective treatment, I just haven’t seen the evidence to back it up yet.

    I also believe that it is in the realm of possibility that Big Pharma can manipulate trials and suppress information. They’ve done it many, many times in the past. Perdue Pharmacy and OxyContin is just one of many examples of what they are capable of when it comes to making sure the big profits keep rolling in. With the way that everything has become a political battlefield now days, who knows what’s true anymore.

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    Re: Covid - 19

    Quote Originally Posted by SicemDawgz View Post
    Goosey is right on this point. I’m not anti-Ivermectin, but without randomized clinical trials, you have no idea whether it works or not. I’ve seen people that were really sick with Covid get better in a few days without treatment. A lot of people. If those same people would have been taking medicine x, they would have believed that it cured them when in fact, they got better on their own. Having said that, I hope it turns out to be an effective treatment, I just haven’t seen the evidence to back it up yet.

    I also believe that it is in the realm of possibility that Big Pharma can manipulate trials and suppress information. They’ve done it many, many times in the past. Perdue Pharmacy and OxyContin is just one of many examples of what they are capable of when it comes to making sure the big profits keep rolling in. With the way that everything has become a political battlefield now days, who knows what’s true anymore.
    Exactly why it is ludicrous for the new formulation of China virus innoculation to get rubberstamp approval from the regulatory agencies with no completed human trials whatsoever.

    The regulatory agencies show that they are in the deep pockets of Big Pharma every chance they get.

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    Re: Covid - 19

    At what point does the anecdotal evidence equal or outweigh the supposedly scientific evidence? As in, how much more first hand, real life evidence do we need to know the medical community will only allow the outcome they want?

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    Re: Covid - 19

    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    At what point does the anecdotal evidence equal or outweigh the supposedly scientific evidence? As in, how much more first hand, real life evidence do we need to know the medical community will only allow the outcome they want?
    That’s when it becomes a vaccine and not merely a shot.

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    What happened to following CDC guidance? Rules for thee and not for me again.

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    New research estimates COVID vax causes at least 18 "serious adverse events" in young adults for every hospitalization prevented. NIH observational study finds "variety of neuropathic symptoms" post-vaccination.

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