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    Re: Is There Wasteful Spending In The Coronavirus Stimulus Bill?

    Quote Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow View Post
    I am not a big talk radio guy. You're going to have to come up with better than a Kindergarten-style analysis (you remember the pigeon holes you had to put everything in) to move ahead. Keep trying, you may get there yet.
    Where you get your talking points is of no consequence to me. Trump is the talk radio/tinfoil hat president.
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    Re: Is There Wasteful Spending In The Coronavirus Stimulus Bill?

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Still part of the Snowflake age group.
    And they're not unflappable as witnessed by their TDS.
    I donít think you know what Gen X is. We are the opposite of snowflakes. You might be thinking of millennials or Gen Z.

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    Re: Is There Wasteful Spending In The Coronavirus Stimulus Bill?

    Hmmm, this all Godlike word "conservatism" seems to really have some people mesmerized.

    This free trade, open borders, immigrant welcoming, change reluctant ideal that has been pretty much a dead horse since the implementation of the welfare state.

    Free trade cannot exist globally when other nations are intent on destroying you. Free trade cannot exist when everyone doesn't play by the same rules. Free trade cannot exist when one government puts restrictions on industry (and demands living wages for unskilled labor) that another does not. If we engage in that kind of free trade, we will lose and we will perish. Watch how fast we become energy dependent if this dumping the Saudis and Russians are doing keeps up. We need to protect our energy industry. In many cases, we have to protect it from our own legislators.

    We have never really had open borders, at least not since the early 1800s. Immigrants from Europe and elsewhere were processed at Ellis Island where we figured out who they were, what they may have done, and if they carried any diseases we didn't particularly want. If they made it through the process, they were turned loose in the country and they either made it or they didn't (if lucky they had relatives already here to help them). Unchecked immigration and a welfare state.....conservatism?????

    Here we are now dependent on China and India for medicine and medical equipment, and we have a shortage. How incredibly stupid was that? What if we were in a war with China? I am sure they'd still sell us what we need to stay healthy and fight them, right? Oh, but we have to sacrifice ourselves on the altar of "conservatism" and "free trade", because this concept is more important than our very survival.

    This pandemic may be the thing that finally wakes us up.

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    Re: Is There Wasteful Spending In The Coronavirus Stimulus Bill?

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Where you get your talking points is of no consequence to me. Trump is the talk radio/tinfoil hat president.
    Well, as long as CNN/MSNBC control your thinking, I suppose there is no convincing you otherwise.

    Edited.....I do not think you get your news from CNN/MSNBC. I thought I was responding to Guisslapp. I have no idea where you get your ideas.

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    Re: Is There Wasteful Spending In The Coronavirus Stimulus Bill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    As much as I am sure you wish that I were in misery (you do you), it isnít gonna happen. I am a Gen Xer, and we carry on unflappably no matter what.
    I wish misery on no person. But, if you are not miserable and impacted by every breath trump takes, you sure pretend you are.

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    Re: Is There Wasteful Spending In The Coronavirus Stimulus Bill?

    Quote Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow View Post
    Well, as long as CNN/MSNBC control your thinking, I suppose there is no convincing you otherwise.

    Edited.....I do not think you get your news from CNN/MSNBC. I thought I was responding to Guisslapp. I have no idea where you get your ideas.
    That isnít where I get my news.

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    Re: Is There Wasteful Spending In The Coronavirus Stimulus Bill?

    Quote Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow View Post
    I wish misery on no person. But, if you are not miserable and impacted by every breath trump takes, you sure pretend you are.
    Trump is in their heads which could be what he wants. He is definitely driving the media and the insane Washington swamp (Pelosi, Hillary, crooked Biden, the community organizer Obama behind the scenes, the "Deep State", Schiff, Schemer etc..). I love it in all honesty.

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    Re: Is There Wasteful Spending In The Coronavirus Stimulus Bill?

    And here comes more Pelosi politico BS and waste! The first $2 Trillion got signed and she's still hungry for more pork porn to eat. This is all she knows to do.

    Pelosi pushes ‘SALT shakeup’ stimulus, here’s who stands to benefit


    Pelosi pushes 'SALT shakeup' stimulus to reduce her tax bill and enrich her wealthy district


    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., is pushing for a new stimulus bill that would roll back the state and local tax deduction (SALT) cap, a proposal that would predominantly help wealthy individuals — including most residents in Pelosi's district and perhaps even Pelosi herself.

    A 2019 report from the Joint Committee on Taxation projected that of those who would face lower tax liability from the elimination of the SALT cap – which only affects those who itemize tax deductions – 94 percent earn at least $100,000. The government would lose out on $77.4 billion in tax dollars, with more than half of that amount being saved by taxpayers earning $1 million or more. Those earning more than $200,000 would reap most of the balance.

    California's 12th congressional district, which Pelosi represents, is among the wealthiest in the U.S., with a median income of $113,919, according to census data. The average household income is $168,456 -- meaning most residents would benefit from any significant cut to SALT.


    Pelosi and her husband have a property tax liability of approximately $198,337.62 considering their two homes, a winery and two commercial properties, public records show, indicating that the couple could reap substantial benefits in the event of a full SALT repeal.

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    “Families and workers are struggling to pay rent, pay their mortgage and buy groceries," Steil said in a statement. "Americans need relief and assistance now, which is why I supported the CARES Act. However, some in Washington felt it was important to spend $25 million of taxpayer dollars on the Kennedy Center when there are obviously bigger needs right now. This is frivolous spending in the midst of a national emergency."

    “The ink is hardly dry on a $2 trillion-plus emergency package,” Sen. Patrick J. Toomey, R-Penn., told the Times. “It’s far too soon to know whether and of what nature additional legislation is needed. If we determine that another measure is necessary, it should not be the vehicle for Speaker Pelosi’s partisan, parochial wish list.


    GOP SEEKS TO CLAW BACK $25M ALLOCATED TO KENNEDY CENTER, AS OPERA HOUSE ANNOUNCES LAYOFFS


    Senate Finance Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, has echoed that complaint.

    "This is a nonstarter. Millionaires don’t need a new tax break as the federal government spends trillions of dollars to fight a pandemic," a spokesperson for Grassley said.

    "Mrs. Pelosi’s remarks underscore the potential for further political mischief and long-term damage as the government intervenes to stimulate the economy," The Wall Street Journal editorial board
    wrote Tuesday. "When Democrats next complain that Republicans want to cut taxes 'for the rich,' remember that Mrs. Pelosi wants to cut them too—but mainly for the progressive rich in Democratic states."

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pelosi-pushes-new-stimulus-that-would-help-wealthy-locales-including-her-district-with-salt-rollback

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