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    Re: Justice for Ahmaud

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    In a preliminary court hearing, an investigator testified that Travis McMichael can be heard using a racial slur as he was standing over Arbery as he died.
    See, that to me is much better evidence that the killing was premeditated

    I'm not on board with hate crime designations, but murder is murder

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    Re: Justice for Ahmaud

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Dawg View Post
    See, that to me is much better evidence that the killing was premeditated

    I'm not on board with hate crime designations, but murder is murder
    GA has no hate crime law. It'll be interesting to see if the FBI gets involved.
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    Re: Justice for Ahmaud

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    GA has no hate crime law. It'll be interesting to see if the FBI gets involved.
    I’ve seen video of at least 5 hate crimes in the last month. Oh wait, that was all black on white crimes. Nothing to see here.

    Just innocent victims of systemic racism.

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    Re: Justice for Ahmaud

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Dawg View Post
    See, that to me is much better evidence that the killing was premeditated

    I'm not on board with hate crime designations, but murder is murder
    Should there be enhanced punishment or crimes for terrorism or should terrorism just be prosecuted on assault/battery, murder and other criminal law?

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    Re: Justice for Ahmaud

    Quote Originally Posted by glm47 View Post
    I’ve seen video of at least 5 hate crimes in the last month. Oh wait, that was all black on white crimes. Nothing to see here.

    Just innocent victims of systemic racism.
    Bless your heart.

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    Re: Justice for Ahmaud

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Bless your heart.
    A form of reparations you approve of no doubt.
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    Re: Justice for Ahmaud

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    GA has no hate crime law. It'll be interesting to see if the FBI gets involved.
    I believe that is the case, they are pursuing a federal hate crime charge.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Should there be enhanced punishment or crimes for terrorism or should terrorism just be prosecuted on assault/battery, murder and other criminal law?
    I'm not sure. I don't think so. Of course, if you were premeditating to blow up, say, 100 people, that's a lot of charges. So it's more of a philosophical difference to me, I guess.

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    Re: Justice for Ahmaud

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Dawg View Post
    I believe that is the case, they are pursuing a federal hate crime charge.



    I'm not sure. I don't think so. Of course, if you were premeditating to blow up, say, 100 people, that's a lot of charges. So it's more of a philosophical difference to me, I guess.
    Obviously hate crime laws and terrorism laws are similar. In essence, they are based on the idea that the victim goes beyond the victim that is harmed by the ordinary crime - that the crime was directed to a broader group of people and they are in some way also victims.

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    Re: Justice for Ahmaud

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Obviously hate crime laws and terrorism laws are similar. In essence, they are based on the idea that the victim goes beyond the victim that is harmed by the ordinary crime - that the crime was directed to a broader group of people and they are in some way also victims.
    I understand the logic of it. I'm not sure I want a standard that can be so nebulous. There are (or I believe there to be) differences between a crime perpetrated on me, intended for me, and connected to me because of some property I happen to share with the actual victims.

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    Re: Justice for Ahmaud

    All three have been indicted.
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