John Lewis

[PawDawg]

I have two high school classmates, one of which is pursuing her Dr at Stanford, and is currently in African American Studies there, (also on staff at Stanford). She has gone full bore BLM, and posts on her FB all the time about segregation. Back at Mizzou a year or so ago, when they had their protests etc, they had the school give a "blacks only" safe space because they didn't want to associate with others. I've also seen this pop up here and there from some "prominent" BLM people. Maybe many is too strong, but the movement does seem to be growing.

Give them the HBCUs...oh yeah they’ve excelled at getting bad for 50 years. More money will solve it.

[arkansasbob]

Of course you can disagree, on specific policies or execution of an otherwise sound policy. But, that's not what we get from the anti-Trumpers on this forum. Never do you see a rational argument presented that focuses on the facts of some issue. Goosey just posted that "unemployment" is bad under Trump. That is so stupid, so 180 degrees opposite of the truth, when we have just experienced record low unemployment across all demographic groups. He has repositioned us to get fair shakes in trade deals. He's gotten NATO countries to step up and start contributing their fair share, etc, etc, etc..

Oh, I know, he sometimes gets a little naughty in Tweets...Yeah! that completely undoes all the great things he has done for our country and for Americans.

Let's get down to tacks...starting with immigration. What don't you like about his policies?

i agree guisslapp's criticisms are for the most part without substance, but you called ME a commie. based on what? my (very mild) criticism of trump. i'd be willing to bet i'm farther from socialism and communism than you are, and i'm definitely right of trump on that spectrum, but you called me a commie anyway because you seem to think that only leftists can dislike trump.

[arkansasbob]

It’s amazing to think that in our not to distant past that a voting citizen could be arrested for pissing in a toilet meant for white piss.

And amazing to think someone arrested for integrated pissing, could be a become - and still serve as - a US Representative.

We’ve come a long way. We’ve still got a way to go.

It’s relevant, like you said, because it happened in very recent history.

i guess i misunderstood. it clearly shows how far we have come, which i agree is amazing. it does not demonstrate that we have still got a way to go, which seemed to be what you were implying (not saying i don't agree that we have a way to go, only that this instance does nothing to demonstrate that).

Are you saying my ‘par for the course’ comment was an unfounded accusation?

certainly seemed like you were accusing someone of thinking that getting arrested for for using the wrong color bathroom is par for the course. maybe i misunderstood your meaning there as well?

[turbodawg]

Amazing indeed. I guess it's perspective, but idiots voting for idiots produces this type of colored politicians.

https://nypost.com/2020/07/12/aoc-bl...or-city-crime/

Idiots and colored. Gotcha.

Equating Lewis to Cortez, no.

[turbodawg]

i guess i misunderstood. it clearly shows how far we have come, which i agree is amazing. it does not demonstrate that we have still got a way to go, which seemed to be what you were implying (not saying i don't agree that we have a way to go, only that this instance does nothing to demonstrate that).



certainly seemed like you were accusing someone of thinking that getting arrested for for using the wrong color bathroom is par for the course. maybe i misunderstood your meaning there as well?

Na, podnuh. If I misunderstood, that’s on me, and I apologize. My bad, in the parlance of our time.

We do have a ways to go, in my humble opinion.

Getting better? Yes. Time will eventually erase all wounds.

But in the present, If we’re not moving forward, we’re going backwards.

[PawDawg]

Idiots and colored. Gotcha.

Equating Lewis to Cortez, no.

Not sure what color AOC is, but she gets extra mileage for not being white. If she were white she would not be in office now.

Never equated Lewis to Cortez. I equated the voting bases of Lewis to Cortez.

[dawg80]

i agree guisslapp's criticisms are for the most part without substance, but you called ME a commie. based on what? my (very mild) criticism of trump. i'd be willing to bet i'm farther from socialism and communism than you are, and i'm definitely right of trump on that spectrum, but you called me a commie anyway because you seem to think that only leftists can dislike trump.

Why (how) can a true American patriot dislike PRESIDENT Trump? One can dislike Donald Trump on a personal level, as a person. But no way can any true American dislike the job he is doing as POTUS. I doubt you are farther to the right than me re: socialism/communism. If you are, congrats, because you have done a great job of disguising it.

[arkansasbob]

Why (how) can a true American patriot dislike PRESIDENT Trump? One can dislike Donald Trump on a personal level, as a person. But no way can any true American dislike the job he is doing as POTUS. I doubt you are farther to the right than me re: socialism/communism. If you are, congrats, because you have done a great job of disguising it.

i assume that first sentence is a rhetorical question. otherwise, i would be happy to answer it for you and maybe we could all learn from each other.

...and another completely unfounded statement in bold.

[turbodawg]

Not sure what color AOC is, but she gets extra mileage for not being white. If she were white she would not be in office now.

Never equated Lewis to Cortez. I equated the voting bases of Lewis to Cortez.

Right, people with a skin tone like Cortez have got lots of mileage historically. Not sure why color should matter, but, hey.

Ahh. You’re saying that voting bases are idiots and colored.

Clears that right up.

[dawg80]

i assume that first sentence is a rhetorical question. otherwise, i would be happy to answer it for you and maybe we could all learn from each other.

...and another completely unfounded statement in bold.

Hell no, that is no rhetorical question! Just goes to show how out of touch you really are. But, go ahead, if you dare...attack President Trump on the job he is doing for REAL Americans. Please. Goosey has gone off the deep end and doesn't even offer mildly humorous stupid stuff anymore. Maybe you can take his place.

[johnnylightnin]

Billy bad ass? Hah! Not me, I'm a lover, not a fighter!

But, let's focus on the Internet and the exchange of "words." For years some of you have relentlessly attacked President Trump ON HIS CHARACTER and linked his supporters to what you say are BAD character flaws. So, what then? Did you expect us to simply take that insult? First of all, I don't see any differences in his alleged flaws and those of other politicians you say you support. Except, Trump trumps them on one, very important issue: he keeps (or tries to) his campaign promises.

Linked his supporters? That's just you projecting. Because you love Trump so much, you feel like attacks on him are attacks on you. I don't know that I've questioned anybody here on their character, but I've certainly called out the hypocrisy. The right was falling all over themselves to attack Bill Clinton's character. By your metric, we should've all just been supporting him because he got good results. You don't have to go back far on this board to see all the character attacks on Obama. But now that YOUR guy is in office, we need to just ignore his deplorable character. Al Mohler was right in 2016. His about face is the definition of hypocrisy.

But WAY more important than that is Trump's dedication to our nation. He truly puts AMERICA FIRST! George Washington had flaws, but thanks to him, we have the greatest nation on Earth, in the history of the Earth. So, yours, and Goosey's and some others' constant attacks against Trump leads to only one conclusion...you must hate our country. Otherwise you would at least acknowledge all the great things he has done, and tried to do, even if you're hung up on character flaws. Of course, we can't all be perfect like apparently you are. Must be nice to be devoid of flaws.

This is just circular reasoning. Then, you take that circular reasoning and extrapolate that those who oppose Trump hate America. Just bad logic all around.

[dawg80]

I attacked obummer on his policies. Didn't know he had any character that could even be measured....Mr. Empty Suit.

As for Bill Clinton I have been very clear and consistent on him and his tenure. I did not vote for him either time he ran, so this is not about what I thought of him at the time. He did sell missile technology to the Chicoms in 1996 and should have been tried as a traitor for that. He did have sex "with that woman" in the "Oral" Office and then perjured himself lying about it. Neither of those are in dispute. STILL! the economy did great during his tenure...that is not in dispute either. Unlike you suffering from TDS, blinded by your hatred, I can look at a politician I did not support and acknowledge his accomplishments.

Even obummer...he took out those Somalia pirates and ordered SEAL Team 6 to get Bin Laden. Two accomplishments.

[arkansasbob]

Hell no, that is no rhetorical question! Just goes to show how out of touch you really are. But, go ahead, if you dare...attack President Trump on the job he is doing for REAL Americans. Please. Goosey has gone off the deep end and doesn't even offer mildly humorous stupid stuff anymore. Maybe you can take his place.

"how can a true american patriot dislike president trump?"
for starters, a true american patriot respects the office of the presidency and hates to see a petty, childish brat treat it like his personal toy. a true american patriot wants to see americans united around good government, not their political rivals getting "owned".

just because i don't like trump doesn't mean i support his opponents. i can't imagine things being better with biden in charge (or whoever takes over after he fails to survive the first year in office). i just wish we had someone thoughtful and mature in office who also isn't up to their neck in the swamp. at this point kanye almost seems like a viable option...

[stodgdog]

Interesting response.

Not propping him up, but walk a mile in that man’s shoes.

Have you ever served time for where you’ve pissed?

If 1 night in OP jail counts, yes. But it was my fault - stupid on my part.

[stodgdog]

so i can't disagree without being a commie. tds clearly goes both ways.

I must have it because though I know I've heard of TDS but can't recall what it is. What is it?