We are winning for the state support, fan support, and players. We will always at best split or lose a little on media support.Originally Posted by brtransplant
We'll never play them every year again, but I'd like to play them or LaLaff every year.
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We are winning for the state support, fan support, and players. We will always at best split or lose a little on media support.
We'll never play them every year again, but I'd like to play them or LaLaff every year.
1. Is it possible for one program to be better than another? Within the limits of G5?
2. If so, what would be an alternate option to needing to "tell other programs they're better than them?" Is the only other option head-to-head play? If that's the case, how could you play every other G5 every year? If there are other metrics, the "telling other programs" is beside the point, right? We're just interpreting the metrics (whatever they are).
What would better?
This isn't a normal season.
playing them in Ruston at our newly renovated football stadium.
I don't anyone excited about this game besides the sports reporters.
ULM fans and people who think Tech is still in the Southland are very excited.
This season?
With capacity restrictions most likely on the way? And probably record low attendance even if we don't cap attendance? And owing them a return game?
See what T-Mac has started now. People can't wait to write about LA Tech-ULM.
Yes, I'll say it. Beating schools like Big Ten Illinois, Navy, Hawaii and Miami U in good bowl games makes LA Tech better than ULM in football. It's just a fact.
BYU was what I recommended very early on to some of our guys at LTAC. They laughed at my suggestion. Yet, since that time, we've watched both Army and Troy schedule a home-home series with BYU, and I just read moments ago that UTSA has now scheduled a road game with BYU too.
I chalk this up to a Southland Conference/Gulf States mentality incubating in our AD office. It just never occurred to T-Mac and his team to schedule BYU for a home-and home. Neither he or his team of schedulers understood that THIS was a unique opportunity knocking, and he could have done so much better than scheduling ULM. T-Mac doesn't understand that there's a reason we haven't played ULM in 20 years....it's because most Tech fans understand that Tech has everything to lose, and absolutely nothing to gain from playing ULM.
We are better than them. 40+ wins better in the same time span. 7-2 in bowls to their 1 bowl appearance period. We have a better university, nicer facilities, hell Ruston just smells better.
Playing NLULM gets you one good game in attendance and that’s if it’s at your place, after that ass whooping, their fans stay home to watch LSU on tv. If we beat them, We are supposed to, if we lost then shit like that article gets cranked up to 11. Most of the younger alumni don’t care about them, I’m 43 and have been in the stands since 1980 when I was 3 and I dont care about them.
Some of you do, more power to you, it’s your entertainment dollar, but there is absolutely nothing to gain playing them anymore. If they want to play us it should be in Ruston, no return games to Monroe ever offered, and they get the same check that we give the UCA’s of the world. They are nothing more than a rent a win.
I see ULm got 3 votes in today’s AP top25 release ;-)
No one gives a hoot about this game anymore.
The attendance from the ULM fans the last few games in the late 90s is evidence of that. ULM fans are no shows.
Hell, ULM may beat tech - Tech will probably win - either way, 3 reporters will cover the game and it gets us no good regional coverage and zero national coverage.
The rest of the nation is still trying to figure out ULM, ULl, Louisiana, Monroe, Warhawk, Cajun, USL, NLU, Ulala, UL-x....etc.
Now that I'm back in front of my computer and have a minute, let me address this:
1) what difference would capacity restrictions make with this group??? NLU will probably bring 200-300, depending what time the LSU/Arkansas game starts on TV
2) we haven't exactly broken attendance records while this AD has been doing the scheduling..... So we have 18.5k in the stand, instead of 18.9k.....
3) they needed the game and would have scheduled it anywhere, without having to reciprocate with a home game - at least that is how I would propose it - if they turned that down, there were other options.
4) our facilities are light years ahead of Independence Stadium especially in the safety of attending anything in that part of Shreveport. I just think that it would be work for the AD
Speaking of other options - look at what other teams in our area have schedules, especially the BYU games that HD keeps bringing up! That makes a lot more sense than NLU in Shreveport.
One other thing, when you try to schedule games like this, think up...i.e. American Conference, etc. - not down...i.e. SunBelt
Last edited by DawgFaninHous; 08-21-2020 at 10:15 AM.
That seems to be the one Achilles heel that everyone we have had in the AD chair in the last few decades has had. They are willing to settle instead of strive. Like when news broke about turning down Kansas (I think) offering to play us at home, screwing up the BYU deal a few years ago etc. I mean Kansas isnt a football powerhouse, but when you can get one team from a bigger conference to come into Ruston take it. Games at home against P5 are hard for G5 to get plain and simple. Almost if not all of our contemporaries have been able to do it, even NLULM.
1. Come on. I'm also quick to tap the breaks every time this comes up on "automatic standing room only sellouts every year" foolishness. But the first game back for this series is going to be really well attended. The first game in the 97-00 series still holds our attendance record! And while game 2 in Ruston wasn't to that level, it was still pretty good. I was at both return games and I'm going to go out on a limb and say that those were way above average for them (especially the first one in '98). This is not a game we want to play in Ruston with a 25% capacity cap. If we're going to play ULM, get the most out of playing ULM. I know people have reasons that they don't want to play them, but one the reasons to play them that I think is undeniable is that you'd expect a big crowd for your home game. I wouldn't want to waste that in what will be a low attendance year.
2. I'm not sure what you mean. But I think playing ULM at home in 2020 gets you a lot less than playing ULM at home in 2022. If we limit to 25-30% or something, there is a hard cap right there. So it'd be like 8K instead of 18.9K (even if you're assuming this would be a normally attended game for us, which I disagree with in point #1). And even if we throw open the gates with no restrictions, I can't imagine this is going to be a year with 20K type crowds for us. I have to think everything is going to be way down no matter who we're playing.
3. Maybe. But you have to pay for a home game like that. If we offered "hey we'll give you $15 in gas money for the right to come play us" then of course they don't do that. They'd be better off not to play at all. If that's your goal anyway, I guess that's fine. But they didn't need an away game anywhere - they needed to make money. In Shreveport, they (may) make at least a little money out of this.
4. Yeah, Ruston games are way better than Shreveport games. Not disputing that. This just worked better for this specific special circumstance.
A BYU away game with a return down the road would have been a good move in my opinion. I can imagine some reasons why it wouldn't have worked out, but I agree that it could have been beneficial for us.
Yeah, all things being equal a series with an AAC team generally better than a series with a Sunbelt team. But it takes two to tango. And this year presented some special challenges.
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