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    Re: 10/02 Tech @ BYU (8 PM) - Game

    What I don’t know and can’t figure out is what the exact reoccurring flaw is in Tech not clearing the hurdle of climbing one step better than where we are. For one reason or another we go through the same sort of thing every year. Is it that as a team our players just aren’t physically talented enough or are they not football smart enough to comprehend and execute a sophisticated enough offense and defense to make the difference against good competition?

    We’ve all seen how simplistic our offense has been under Holtz. We can usually call the plays before they’re run so you the other team has a good idea too. As far as a defensive strategy goes, we are rarely aggressive along the line or with our linebackers. It’s usually more like bend slowly then break.

    Is it that our assistant coaches aren’t good enough to coach our players up? As for our O & D coordinators, on either side of the ball we always seem so ‘blah.’ It’s like our strategy is to play with the brakes on.

    I know Holtz as the head coach is responsible for everything. Maybe he can’t identify what it is that we need to improve on to take that next step. Maybe he micromanages his other coaches too much and he’s not good at that. I get the impression that he coaches too much against making mistakes and tries to bridle things too much.

    It seems he definitely would rather the other team make the mistakes to lose the game than for Tech to run away and win it. It looks like every game is one of a cautious approach. And then even in the game when things are going well for Tech, he’ll do something unnecessary that throws a monkey wrench into the gears.

    Holtz is also not a very energetic type of guy on the sidelines. If you’re not excited there I don’t think you can be at practice either. Maybe his lack of excitement and energy brings the team down. I’m not saying he should be a chicken with his head cut off like the young guy at S. Miss, but some enthusiasm as certain key times can’t always be a bad thing.

    So, what it is?

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    Re: 10/02 Tech @ BYU (8 PM) - Game

    It's who (what) Holtz is as a coach. He is a "good" coach and does a "good" job. He is consistently "good." He is not a great coach. It takes greatness to bust through that glass ceiling...that can come from a stable of awesome players, a senior-laden team that achieves beyond the coaching they are getting, it might come from coordinators who achieve beyond the head coach, lifting the team one season to lofty heights...and of course it can come from having a great HC.

    A few years back I was asking the question of Holtz, "Is there nothing more?" 8-5 seasons, bowl wins...year after year after year...the answer is, NO, there is nothing more. This is his pinnacle.

    Now, some of our posters will chime in with be thankful we have Holtz, because....IT COULD BE WORSE. Yep, it could. But they never, ever seem to offer...IT COULD BE BETTER. I'm at the point with Tech football, as I am with all sports, I just don't care enough to really care. It's more like...whatever!

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    Re: 10/02 Tech @ BYU (8 PM) - Game

    Of course we could be better!! Like last year when we were 8-1 going into the 2 toughest games of the year when Smokey McPot couldn't give it one more month to smoke to his hearts desire. Possible NY6 bowl game on the line. Whether we thought we deserved the shot or not, it was within range. The man needs some titles to get the fanbase back on board, but it really seems that the players by into the Brotherhood aspect and he's running a good clean program to our knowledge. Keep grinding. Let's beat a P5 in Non-Conf schedule and get back to the CUSA title game, then let the chips fall where they may. 1 game does not a season make!! (even though it was a pretty thorough ass kicking...)

    Speaking of.... why don't we have some American Samoan D-Linemen?? Those men were killing our O-line. Is it the pine cones??

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    Re: 10/02 Tech @ BYU (8 PM) - Game

    Quote Originally Posted by Bone_afide_Dawg View Post
    In the post game at least Holtz admitted that the Tech coaching was not good... ah dah, you think? Everything considered week in and week out, our team coaching is our consistent weakest part.
    The “coaching” is terrible right now. Just to cite two examples, players showed up this year seriously out of shape, and Holtz isn’t using his time outs well at all.

    When BYU was driving for that last TD in the 1st half (4-play drive?) it was obvious that our defense had no idea what they were doing. After the first huge completion or two on that drive. Holtz should have called a time out, given everyone on defense time to settle down, and of course, gotten everyone on his defense ORGANIZED.

    Instead, Holtz just let BYU drive the length of the field In 4 plays unmolested, and took his timeouts to the locker room. It was TOO easy for BYU, and it made a mockery out of the game.

    This is a serious coaching flaw in Holtz. He never thinks to use his timeouts on defense. He doesn’t seem to understand that STOPPING a TD is as good as SCORING one.

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    Re: 10/02 Tech @ BYU (8 PM) - Game

    Holtz is a moron on the use/non-use of timeouts! In the N.O. Bowl, Ark State was out of timeouts at the end of the 1st half, 30 seconds to go, and Holtz called one, maybe two TOs allowing ASU to substitute, call plays...they ran a play, got tackled in bounds, less than 20 seconds to go, and Holtz called a timeout! As we all know, thanks to the moron, ASU scored the game-tying TD in the waning seconds. As it turned out, thanks to Holtz, Ark State had and used SIX timeouts in the 1st half!

    Of course, on the last play of the half, we hit Paul Turner on a pass and he came within a shoelace of taking it to the house.

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    Re: 10/02 Tech @ BYU (8 PM) - Game

    So this time he is an idiot for not doing that, while against Arkansas State he is an idiot for doing that?

    Pick one. I think he should have called some TOs, but if BYU scored anyway, I imagine you’d be calling him an idiot for “giving them time outs.”

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    Re: 10/02 Tech @ BYU (8 PM) - Game

    Quote Originally Posted by Tech52 View Post
    So this time he is an idiot for not doing that, while against Arkansas State he is an idiot for doing that?

    Pick one. I think he should have called some TOs, but if BYU scored anyway, I imagine you’d be calling him an idiot for “giving them time outs.”
    TOTALLY different circumstances...the BYU game vs. the Ark State game. TOTALLY DIFFERENT! Polar opposites! If you can't see that, little wonder you defend Holtz's goofy decisions.

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    Re: 10/02 Tech @ BYU (8 PM) - Game

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    TOTALLY different circumstances...the BYU game vs. the Ark State game. TOTALLY DIFFERENT! Polar opposites! If you can't see that, little wonder you defend Holtz's goofy decisions.
    In both games they are driving before the half. In both games you want them to not score.

    The only difference is we had a lead in one game and were behind a few scores behind in the other. And in both instances the other team scored.

    I personally think he should have used one, but I also believe it would not have mattered, and they would have scored on that drive either way. I just feel that your opinion on it would be flipped the other way had they scored and Holtz used a time out.

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    Re: 10/02 Tech @ BYU (8 PM) - Game

    TOTALLY DIFFERENT! BYU still had its own timeouts, had they needed them. There was plenty of time on the clock, they had all the momentum going their way. Our defense was gassed and confused.

    Ark State game. They are out of timeouts and it was a punt return that set them up around midfield, with less than a minute to go. Holtz proceeds to use two TOs that greatly aided them! The last one was especially stupid, the clock running Ark State just had a gainer and their fat OL were dragging ass up the field...by the time they would have even reached the LOS there would have been time for one desperate snap, maybe. But, Holtz called a timeout. Gee...they walk over to the sideline, huddle with their coaches, and are able to call a play, which was an RPO...touchdown.

    Defend that. Go ahead...

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    Re: 10/02 Tech @ BYU (8 PM) - Game

    Quote Originally Posted by DocMarvin362 View Post
    Of course we could be better!! Like last year when we were 8-1 going into the 2 toughest games of the year when Smokey McPot couldn't give it one more month to smoke to his hearts desire. Possible NY6 bowl game on the line. Whether we thought we deserved the shot or not, it was within range. The man needs some titles to get the fanbase back on board, but it really seems that the players by into the Brotherhood aspect and he's running a good clean program to our knowledge. Keep grinding. Let's beat a P5 in Non-Conf schedule and get back to the CUSA title game, then let the chips fall where they may. 1 game does not a season make!! (even though it was a pretty thorough ass kicking...)

    Speaking of.... why don't we have some American Samoan D-Linemen?? Those men were killing our O-line. Is it the pine cones??
    Great post!

    And the Samoan’s probably eat tons of SPAM like the Hawaiians do. They are the worlds largest SPAM eaters. And yes I’m serious!

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    Re: 10/02 Tech @ BYU (8 PM) - Game

    I’ve said it all the time...

    Skip Holtz is our Jeff Bower.

    We will have him for as long as we want.

    He ain’t going nowhere.

    We will be in a bowl game every year (in a system where pretty much everyone gets a bowl game).

    We will having a winning season every year (in a bad CUSA).

    We will not ever win a meaningful game against a ranked opponent.

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    Re: 10/02 Tech @ BYU (8 PM) - Game

    At least he is winning the bowl games, but we've squandered that record streak.

    It's a shame our former AD and Skip have refused to engage with the fan base over the past 7 years to build our fan base and our LTAC giving.

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    Re: 10/02 Tech @ BYU (8 PM) - Game

    Quote Originally Posted by DocMarvin362 View Post
    Of course we could be better!! Like last year when we were 8-1 going into the 2 toughest games of the year when Smokey McPot couldn't give it one more month to smoke to his hearts desire. Possible NY6 bowl game on the line. Whether we thought we deserved the shot or not, it was within range. The man needs some titles to get the fanbase back on board, but it really seems that the players by into the Brotherhood aspect and he's running a good clean program to our knowledge. Keep grinding. Let's beat a P5 in Non-Conf schedule and get back to the CUSA title game, then let the chips fall where they may. 1 game does not a season make!! (even though it was a pretty thorough ass kicking...)

    Speaking of.... why don't we have some American Samoan D-Linemen?? Those men were killing our O-line. Is it the pine cones??
    We don’t need no damn Samoans. We’ve got one of the best S&C coaches in the country. He could go anywhere but he he loves Ruston you know. Great hunting and fishing.

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    Re: 10/02 Tech @ BYU (8 PM) - Game

    Quote Originally Posted by Tech52 View Post
    So this time he is an idiot for not doing that, while against Arkansas State he is an idiot for doing that?

    Pick one. I think he should have called some TOs, but if BYU scored anyway, I imagine you’d be calling him an idiot for “giving them time outs.”
    ...Dude, NOBODY on that defense at that time had a f*&*%^&% clue what they were doing on that drive. Even a 7th grader knows that you call a timeout in that situation to get your shit together and to try to slow down the offense's momentum in hopes of not giving up the cheap TD.

    It's important to remember that Tech was still "in the game" up until this point. But giving up that cheap TD in 4 plays made a mockery of the game, and cheapened all the hard work our players put into this season so far. I hope Skip Holtz at least gives a shit about the players and their hard work. He should at least try to match their effort.

    BTW, these are not earth shaking coaching recommendations. These are normal things that we should be doing every time we roll over like a scared puppy pissing on himself.

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    Re: 10/02 Tech @ BYU (8 PM) - Game

    Quote Originally Posted by revf View Post
    I’ve said it all the time...

    Skip Holtz is our Jeff Bower.

    We will have him for as long as we want.

    He ain’t going nowhere.

    We will be in a bowl game every year (in a system where pretty much everyone gets a bowl game).

    We will having a winning season every year (in a bad CUSA).

    We will not ever win a meaningful game against a ranked opponent.
    You are almost correct. Except Jeff Bower used to BEAT the P5's and Big boys with regularity. He didn't dodge 'em like Skippy. He really doesn't seem to understand that beating a BYU or a P5 school is 10X better than beating a UTEP or a UTSA in conference.

    Unfortunately, Holtz just doesn't seem to care as much as the rest of us. He really doesn't. Some of us on this board could have coached a better game than what he and his coaches did against BYU. (I've already pointed out just a couple of instances above. There are more.)

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