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    Re: 12/3 Tech @ UNT (5 PM) - Game

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    I'm sure this is one of those things that is explained in detail on another thread, but is this something you can stream for free if you download their app (the CBSSN app)?
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    Well, that was fun. I had forgotten it is football season.
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    Re: 12/3 Tech @ UNT (5 PM) - Game

    It’s clearly too much to ask for a QB that doesn’t stare down the intended receiver from the snap and force the pass into close coverage.

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    Re: 12/3 Tech @ UNT (5 PM) - Game

    Quote Originally Posted by LEEDAWG View Post
    It’s clearly too much to ask for a QB that doesn’t stare down the intended receiver from the snap and force the pass into close coverage.
    Neither of our QBs is a true Division I FBS QB. They would both do far better playing in the FCS, or even a lower classification. The game is too fast, and defenses too complex for both of them. But, it is what it is for this year. Yeah, if we had a stable, experienced OL they would both be doing a little better...true. But, beyond that, when they have time, neither demonstrates the capacity to be a reliable, consistent winner at this level.

    Yeah, I know, here come the barbs for my daring to offer an honest opinion. Heck! I am rooting for 'em both! I always like to see the underdog do well. I hope Tech wins out...beats TCU, wins our bowl game...and both enjoy a measure of success, well, they will have to have success if we are to beat TCU and win our bowl game. Won't win games like that without good QB play.

    Just had a thought...ya know, this might be one of Holtz's best coaching jobs he's had. This whole crazy 2020, starting with a VERY young team, injuries/virus-related mess, opt-outs, goofy schedule, and yet we are 5-3. The combined records of the 3 teams that beat us, so far, is 23-4.

    Go Dawgs! Beat the Frogs!

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    Re: 12/3 Tech @ UNT (5 PM) - Game

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Neither of our QBs is a true Division I FBS QB. They would both do far better playing in the FCS, or even a lower classification. The game is too fast, and defenses too complex for both of them. But, it is what it is for this year. Yeah, if we had a stable, experienced OL they would both be doing a little better...true. But, beyond that, when they have time, neither demonstrates the capacity to be a reliable, consistent winner at this level.

    Yeah, I know, here come the barbs for my daring to offer an honest opinion. Heck! I am rooting for 'em both! I always like to see the underdog do well. I hope Tech wins out...beats TCU, wins our bowl game...and both enjoy a measure of success, well, they will have to have success if we are to beat TCU and win our bowl game. Won't win games like that without good QB play.

    Just had a thought...ya know, this might be one of Holtz's best coaching jobs he's had. This whole crazy 2020, starting with a VERY young team, injuries/virus-related mess, opt-outs, goofy schedule, and yet we are 5-3. The combined records of the 3 teams that beat us, so far, is 23-4.

    Go Dawgs! Beat the Frogs!
    I hadn't really thought about it, but after last night, I think you might be right.

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    Re: 12/3 Tech @ UNT (5 PM) - Game

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    Why....that fine young fellow is a Rummel Raider!
    I knew it was either Rummel or Brother Martin. I get the two confused, but knew you would know.

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    Re: 12/3 Tech @ UNT (5 PM) - Game

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Neither of our QBs is a true Division I FBS QB. They would both do far better playing in the FCS, or even a lower classification. The game is too fast, and defenses too complex for both of them.
    I don't know that we've seen enough of Allen to make that call. He's a RS Soph. I agree about Anthony, but I think Allen has earned the job (after his comeback win against UAB).

    I think the game is a LOT faster than it should be for both because our tackles get dominated every game. The poor kid that they did the write up in the paper about was chasing his guy from behind the whole game.
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    Re: 12/3 Tech @ UNT (5 PM) - Game

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post

    Just had a thought...ya know, this might be one of Holtz's best coaching jobs he's had. This whole crazy 2020, starting with a VERY young team, injuries/virus-related mess, opt-outs, goofy schedule, and yet we are 5-3. The combined records of the 3 teams that beat us, so far, is 23-4.

    Go Dawgs! Beat the Frogs!
    Quote Originally Posted by tenacious_dog View Post
    I hadn't really thought about it, but after last night, I think you might be right.
    I have thought about it, and I think you're probably right.

    I think the USM game may have been one of his better coaching jobs here. No spring ball at all, interrupted Fall practice schedule, new QB, etc.

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    Re: 12/3 Tech @ UNT (5 PM) - Game

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    I don't know that we've seen enough of Allen to make that call. He's a RS Soph. I agree about Anthony, but I think Allen has earned the job (after his comeback win against UAB).

    I think the game is a LOT faster than it should be for both because our tackles get dominated every game. The poor kid that they did the write up in the paper about was chasing his guy from behind the whole game.
    But meanwhile Anthony's stats in this game were better (at least on paper).

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    Re: 12/3 Tech @ UNT (5 PM) - Game

    Quote Originally Posted by inudesu View Post
    But meanwhile Anthony's stats in this game were better (at least on paper).
    Luke had a decent game for sure. I do think Allen does better under pressure...and that's our normal this year because of our line play. Of the many things I repeat more often than anyone wants to read, my personal favorite is: if two quarterbacks are roughly even, play the younger one.
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    Re: 12/3 Tech @ UNT (5 PM) - Game

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Luke had a decent game for sure. I do think Allen does better under pressure...and that's our normal this year because of our line play. Of the many things I repeat more often than anyone wants to read, my personal favorite is: if two quarterbacks are roughly even, play the younger one.
    That's probably a decent philosophy in general, but I really think this year it's all about making sure both guys get reps, both guys gain experience. It's clear he hasn't been looking to pick a guy by this point (as you'd expect in a more normal year). Maybe after the UAB/Marshall games last season, he's determined not to be in a situation where QB2 has to go but hasn't been in a real game situation.

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    Re: 12/3 Tech @ UNT (5 PM) - Game

    Luke Anthony did okay because we didn't play a BYU or Marshall. UNT defense is bad.

    UNT is ranked
    #124 in Total Defense.
    #116 in Rushing Defense
    #116 in Passing Yards Allowed

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    Re: 12/3 Tech @ UNT (5 PM) - Game

    Anthony can make some great throws.

    He can also many some really bad throws.

    As has been the case with Holtz (at least since the rock star came along), our QB not being a threat to run takes away a major part of the game we never use.

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    Re: 12/3 Tech @ UNT (5 PM) - Game

    Quote Originally Posted by qng001 View Post
    Luke Anthony did okay because we didn't play a BYU or Marshall.
    Right. But that doesn't explain why his stats are better than Allen's.

    It's like they take turns having the better game (which probably just means they're roughly equal and then you can default to Johnny's philosophy above or go the other way by leaning on the more experienced guy, or just do what we've done all season and rotate them in). It's possible that they're roughly equal now but if one guy (whichever one) became more of a traditional QB1 starter with almost all the game reps, that difference in experience/rhythm/team confidence would lead to further development, but we don't really know that would happen.

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    Re: 12/3 Tech @ UNT (5 PM) - Game

    Just for the sake of conversation, Allen had a higher QBR last night.

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    Re: 12/3 Tech @ UNT (5 PM) - Game

    Anthony is lucky he didn’t have 4 interceptions last night.

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