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    Re: Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by FriscoDawg View Post
    Waiting for the GOP House investigations to start to peel layers of the onion back here. Lots of layers to peel, and some heavily involve RINOs and the uniparty.

    How much of the billions of aid being provided to Ukraine actually reaches the frontline where it is intended? Nowhere near enough. The rest is going to oligarchs and corrupt government officials.

    Zelensky made have done a few good things, but nowhere near enough. His attempts to cover up for the Biden crime family cannot be excused.
    I think from a corruption standpoint, this is great (as long as youre too stupid to understand the risk of total nuclear war or too evil to care about the lives being destroyed anyway).

    The GAE is 1) weakening Russia (although at the cost of strengthening their ties with China), although they will probably win eventually it'll cost a lot, 2) getting rid of old equipment so the MIC can get more contracts to replace it, 3) erasing the military stocks of all other countries placing the US as the only one with any equipment left and 4) uniting the liberals and the neocons behind a common cause, very hard to do!

    All you have to do is win so you don't get charged with a war crime. Easy.

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    Re: Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Dawg View Post
    All you have to do is win so you don't get charged with a war crime. Easy.
    Winning doesn't even mean anything.

    Remember all the "enhanced techniques" we used at Bagram, GTMO and Abu Ghraib? These were war crimes by definition, but nobody was ever charged with them (although the big brass did roll over on the poor privates, sergeants and corporals and present them with bad conduct discharges for following their unwritten guidelines). Heck, is it even legal for us to continue to imprison the inmates at Guantanamo Bay without charging or convicting them of anything? Can you just keep a POW forever once the armed conflict ends? Not that I am for letting them go, because if we have the evidence on them and they are truly evil people, give them their day in court and then execute them.

    And no, I do not believe we are the only ones that do these types of things.

    To charge someone with a war crime you have to invade their country, beat them into an unconditional surrender, then round up their war criminals and try them. Even if Ukraine pushes Russia out of their country, there will be no war crime tribunals unless they (or someone else) invades Russia and takes over (flying into Moscow to arrest Putin and Russian Generals doesn't seem like a workable plan).

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    Re: Russia

    It appears Putin has launched a winter offensive trying to cut two major highways that supply Ukran forces in the Bakhmut region. One north and one south of the area. The biggest push is occurring in the vicinity of Kreminna where recently deployed Russkie units have won an early advantage over the thinly defended line, but the Ukrans are rallying and rushing reinforcements into the fight. Further north another Russkie thrust aimed at a town on another highway has been thwarted and those units veered back northeast and attacked an "undefended" town. The Russkies hail it as a victory, but the Ukrainians say the town had zero troops there, as it was too far behind the ever-changing front for the Ukrans to occupy.

    Meanwhile Putin's problems at home continue to grow as protests are increasing, and Putin was caught holding a fake meeting with "mothers of soldiers" who turned out to be women from Putin's intelligence service, pretending to be concerned mothers.

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    Re: Russia

    Apparently the U.S. and the rest of the "West" blocked a RUssia-Ukraine peace deal, says former Israeli PM


    https://morungexpress.com/west-block...mer-israeli-pm


    Jerusalem, February 5 (IANS) Russia and Ukraine might have come to a peaceful settlement in April 2022, just over a month after their conflict broke out, but the Western powers blocked it, as per former Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett, reports said on Sunday.
    In an a nearly five-hour-long video interview to Israel's Channel 12 on Saturday, he claimed that his efforts as a middleman came close to succeeding as both Moscow and Kiev appeared to be ready to make concessions and agree to a truce, RT reported.


    Bennett, however, said that the negotiations did not succeed because it was "a legitimate decision by the West to keep striking (Russian President Vladimir) Putin� I mean the more aggressive approach".
    Asked if the US and its allies "blocked" the peace process between Moscow and Kiev, he said: "Basically, yes. They blocked it."

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    Re: Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by FriscoDog View Post
    Apparently the U.S. and the rest of the "West" blocked a RUssia-Ukraine peace deal, says former Israeli PM


    https://morungexpress.com/west-block...mer-israeli-pm


    Jerusalem, February 5 (IANS) Russia and Ukraine might have come to a peaceful settlement in April 2022, just over a month after their conflict broke out, but the Western powers blocked it, as per former Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett, reports said on Sunday.
    In an a nearly five-hour-long video interview to Israel's Channel 12 on Saturday, he claimed that his efforts as a middleman came close to succeeding as both Moscow and Kiev appeared to be ready to make concessions and agree to a truce, RT reported.


    Bennett, however, said that the negotiations did not succeed because it was "a legitimate decision by the West to keep striking (Russian President Vladimir) Putin� I mean the more aggressive approach".
    Asked if the US and its allies "blocked" the peace process between Moscow and Kiev, he said: "Basically, yes. They blocked it."
    If all of this is true, well, I can see the rationale for the West (NATO) adopting this strategy. Whether you agree with it or not, the strategy appears to be to allow Putin to destroy himself and his evil regime by fighting a losing war in Ukraine. Keep in mind, no matter what else is true, there would be no war if not for Putin's blatant invasion of a neighbor. Seeing the opportunity to deal Putin a death blow, and quietly thanking him for it, the West has seized this chance.

    Back to this story, how do we know a real peace deal would have been made? We don't know this. Last April Putin was still 100% confident in securing a complete victory in Ukraine. Actually, he is so delusional that he still believes that (probably). We're supposed to believe an Israeli PM? Hell, Putin hates Israel and would obliterate it if he could. This looks more like some posturing by this Bennett fellow to cast himself as being important on the international stage.

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    Re: Russia

    Breaking news!

    Three news agencies are running a story that the Russkies are abandoning Crimea in a panic flight. Many boats are being shown on drone video fleeing Crimean ports. This has all broke in the past hour so can't be sure how true it is. Is it just an exaggeration, i.e. are SOME Russian personnel, maybe civilians, being evacuated but the Russian military is remaining to continue fighting? Later today other, more "neutral" news services will report on this and we'll see.

    Of course, I hope it is true. But, let's wait to see.

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    Re: Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow View Post
    Winning doesn't even mean anything.

    Remember all the "enhanced techniques" we used at Bagram, GTMO and Abu Ghraib? These were war crimes by definition, but nobody was ever charged with them (although the big brass did roll over on the poor privates, sergeants and corporals and present them with bad conduct discharges for following their unwritten guidelines). Heck, is it even legal for us to continue to imprison the inmates at Guantanamo Bay without charging or convicting them of anything? Can you just keep a POW forever once the armed conflict ends? Not that I am for letting them go, because if we have the evidence on them and they are truly evil people, give them their day in court and then execute them.

    And no, I do not believe we are the only ones that do these types of things.

    To charge someone with a war crime you have to invade their country, beat them into an unconditional surrender, then round up their war criminals and try them. Even if Ukraine pushes Russia out of their country, there will be no war crime tribunals unless they (or someone else) invades Russia and takes over (flying into Moscow to arrest Putin and Russian Generals doesn't seem like a workable plan).
    Yep. Stuff like Nuremberg only worked because literally every country that could have objected to procedure had just been bombed into rubble.

    Quote Originally Posted by FriscoDog View Post
    Apparently the U.S. and the rest of the "West" blocked a RUssia-Ukraine peace deal, says former Israeli PM


    https://morungexpress.com/west-block...mer-israeli-pm


    Jerusalem, February 5 (IANS) Russia and Ukraine might have come to a peaceful settlement in April 2022, just over a month after their conflict broke out, but the Western powers blocked it, as per former Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett, reports said on Sunday.
    In an a nearly five-hour-long video interview to Israel's Channel 12 on Saturday, he claimed that his efforts as a middleman came close to succeeding as both Moscow and Kiev appeared to be ready to make concessions and agree to a truce, RT reported.


    Bennett, however, said that the negotiations did not succeed because it was "a legitimate decision by the West to keep striking (Russian President Vladimir) Putin� I mean the more aggressive approach".
    Asked if the US and its allies "blocked" the peace process between Moscow and Kiev, he said: "Basically, yes. They blocked it."
    This is consistent with what UK let slip back in the fall.

    Perhaps all wars are like this and this is just the biggest one in a long time so it's more obvious now, but one of the great tragedies has been the hundreds of chances to prevent this war and those in charge chose blood every time.

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    Re: Russia

    Sources out of Ukraine claim that 1,030 Russian soldiers have been killed in just the last 24 hours in heavy fighting. This is thought to be part of the just-launched winter offensive. Attacking forces usually suffer heavier losses than defending forces. And as been demonstrated many times, Putin doesn't care about the average Russian soldier or his allies and hired hands and will commit units to stupid frontal assaults resulting in high casualties. Ukran artillery, aided by drones, has wreaked huge losses on Putin's lousy army, which is forced to operate out in the open and without sufficient electronic surveillance support. This brings the total up to 134,000 Russian KIA, according to Ukran sources. Putin's propaganda media reports Russian losses to be about 5,700 KIA since the war began a year ago. That is quite a difference in figures. The truth lies somewhere in between.

    And Putin has lost his 10th high-ranking general, killed this week.

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    Re: Russia

    The Bidenites planned and executed this? Giving them too much credit. They aren't that capable.

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    Re: Russia


    Hmmm. You'd think they would have been super supportive of domestic oil and gas production if they were going to do that. Europe has to get fuel from somewhere.

    Wouldn't blowing up a pipeline be an act of war by the US against Russia? Wasn't the smarter move done by Trump in sanctioning any businesses assisting in the construction of the pipeline, encouraging Europeans to NOT become dependent on Russian energy, and making it easier for AMERICAN companies to supply our European allies with the energy they need?

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    Re: Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow View Post
    Hmmm. You'd think they would have been super supportive of domestic oil and gas production if they were going to do that. Europe has to get fuel from somewhere.

    Wouldn't blowing up a pipeline be an act of war by the US against Russia? Wasn't the smarter move done by Trump in sanctioning any businesses assisting in the construction of the pipeline, encouraging Europeans to NOT become dependent on Russian energy, and making it easier for AMERICAN companies to supply our European allies with the energy they need?
    It's only an act of war if CNN doesn't like it. Otherwise it's a "clever strategic move."

    https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream

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    Re: Russia

    The Turks have entered the war. Well, not Turkey officially, save for supplying equipment, ammo, and supplies, but a Turkish-based mercenary unit called the Turin Battalion. It is composed mostly of Turks but also has members from other countries, former Soviet states, who hate the Russians and especially Putin. It numbers about 400 soldiers and is said to have landed in Crimea. But that is doubtful since the situation in Crimea still mostly favors the Russian military and a 400-man unit would not survive very long. More likely the Turin Battalion is in southern Ukraine and has joined those Ukran units attempting to retake Crimea. Also, a retired Turkish colonel has announced he is forming a mercenary legion and has sent out word to mercenaries to come join his unit. A "legion" would have units across the disciplines, such as infantry, artillery, armor, and an airwing unit all operating under the command of a central leader.

    Just watched a video put out by a "news agency" centered in the Mediterranean Sea and covers North Africa, the Middle East and that whole region. Interesting take on the far-reaching consequences of this war, correctly surmising it is NOT just a Russia vs. Ukraine conflict but does indeed involve the whole world. One conclusion drawn in this report is that a new "Axis" has emerged formed by Russia, China, and Iran, with North Korea and some other bad apples possibly ready to join. The war in Ukraine has caused a further polarization of the world, two major camps, and each nation has to decide which camp to join.

    And this is why Turkey's participation in this war is critical. Turkey has a large, strong military, one of the top 10 largest. (At least one think tank ranks Turkey 13th largest, but that is based on its standing 775K regular army and does not consider its vast reserves nor its militia). Regardless, Turkey has a modern military, and they sit in a critical geographical position, absolutely crucial to any conflict that might occur between this new Axis and the West.

    The report concludes with a chilling warning that the geopolitical world sits on shaky "fault lines" and this conflict, or one like that, will shake those fault lines yielding massive political earthquakes which will most certainly result in World War III. The report cites some specifics, mostly former Soviet states with all their impossible to pronounce names.

    Oh well...enjoy the rest of your day!

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    Re: Russia

    First a little bad news. The Ukrans had two HIMARS launchers and 70 missiles destroyed by a Russkie air attack. According to US observers the Ukrans got cocky and careless and left the HIMARS exposed in an open field. Lesson learned, hopefully.

    In better news, the Ukrans have knocked out a Terminator Tank, considered the very best Putin has to offer. Ten such tanks were sent as part of an armor battalion, supported by other tanks and armored vehicles. When it was announced the Terminators were being sent, the Ukrans pledged to destroy them. Apparently a special team was sent in with javelin missiles to find and destroy a Terminator Tank.

    In even better news, the Ukrans have launched a counter-offensive along the Kreminna line and have trapped 20,000 Russians, and their mercenary allies, in a pocket of destruction. The Russkies attacked as part of a winter offensive, this portion south of Bakhmut, in an attempt to encircle and capture the disputed city of Bakhmut. To make their offensive happen the Russkies had to pull reserves from other sections of the line and concentrate them in a column of attack. This weakened portions of the line, and the Ukrans noting this, attacked and punched a hole in the Russkie defensive line and have now gotten in the rear of the Russkie offensive units, trapping them.

    Western sources, NATO observers, have marveled at the tactical and strategic superiority of the Ukran military leaders as they continually out-think their Russkie counterparts.

    Putin is losing.

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    Re: Russia

    The Ukrans have captured the city of Vuledar, which sits at the intersection of two highways important to the Russkie supply lines. This is north of Bakhmut. The Russkies had weakened their units there as part of the offensive buildup. Sources say the Ukrans will probably not be able to hold Vuledar as they have limited troops there too. But they are holding it at the moment which has stopped supply convoys from reaching Russkie forces in the region. More than likely The Russkies will turn their attention to retaking Vuledar fairly soon.

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