How Many Wins Are Acceptable to You?

[FriscoDawg]

All mute points...fruitless exercise...he will not be fired.

The voice of the fan on this subject may be mute, but I don't consider the points to be moot.

[PawDawg]

A better question may be: How empty does the stadium have to be for our leadership to search for (admit) the reason(s)?

I will say that our new AD is reaching out to the students. Let's see if they get rid of the stupid 8:00AM tailgating rule and allow the long time fans to tailgate like they did pre-TMac.

[HogDawg]

All mute points...fruitless exercise...he will not be fired.

It's "moot" point, not "mute". We've covered this ground before.

[HogDawg]

Bowl appearances shouldn't get anything extra. I can live with bonuses for bowl wins, but they should be less than conference championship bonuses.

DITTO.

A poor bowl appearance --like last years embarrassment on national TV against some school named Georgia Southern-- is MUCH WORSE than not appearing in a bowl at all. I'd rather see my team stay home in bowl season if all they are going to do is embarrass me on national TV.

Make no mistake.....that was a low point for this football program. Holtz should not get a free pass.

(Just so I'm clear, I'm not talking about losing a bowl game to a good team in exciting fashion, e.g., our loss to TCU in the 2011 Poinsettia Bowl. Despite the loss to TCU, I was very proud of the 2011 Dogs' performance in that game against a high quality opponent, and throughout that entire year. But, our 2021 appearance in the New Orleans Bowl just looked like a team that had already quit before the kickoff.)

[techman05]

It's "moot" point, not "mute". We've covered this ground before.

We do a great job beating dead horses. Especially in the off-season.

[techman05]

Bowl appearances shouldn't get anything extra. I can live with bonuses for bowl wins, but they should be less than conference championship bonuses.

Only reason I said NY6 bowls is because they would require a conference championship. Now that I think about it more, you are right about bowl appearances though. Bowl win, bonus is okay.

[kfj]

A 6-6 record or worse, then Holtz better be on the hot seat. (I will accept 6-6 if he beats one of the P5 opponents)
3 or fewer wins, he should be fired.

He won’t even try against the 2 P5.

Don't count on winning a P5 game, Holtz CAN'T win a P5 regular season game - 0-14 since he's been here. He can't/won't/doesn't get the team up to win, he's just there for the money game.

[Dawgonit]

Don't count on winning a P5 game

Oh, I don't.

[DJDAWG]

It's "moot" point, not "mute". We've covered this ground before.

Thanks!

[kfj]

It's "moot" point, not "mute". We've covered this ground before.

[LEEDAWG]

I see 8 losses, 2 wins, and two toss-ups....Rice & Charlotte. Rice just picked a highly thought of "dual-threat" QB, and he is enough to beat us all by himself.

4-8 if we bring our "A" game against CLT and Rice.

I wonder how many of the 6 wins predicted for Rice this season by ESPN staff is directly put on Luke McCaffrey transferring there? If they really pay any attention to C-USA football lately then he should be worth 2-3 wins alone. Even though there really wasn't any way to go but up, Rice is trending in the right direction. They finished their 2019 season at 3-9 with all the wins coming in the final three games. Then in their limited 2020 season (2-3), they spanked Marshall and S. Miss. I am also very hesitant to put Rice in a sure-win column for us. I am hoping we can pull off 7 wins this season, but that would require quite a few of unexpected surprises for offense.

[dawgcrazy]

Pleasant surprise -- 10+ wins
Better than expected/good -- 8-9 wins
Expected -- 7 wins
Disappointing -- =<6 wins

[Bulldog Tom]

9 wins should be the minimum to consider any contract extension.
7 wins would be acceptable to answer the question in this thread.
5 or 6 wins is hot seat territory. This allows the possibility of a 6-6 bowl bid and bowl win to stay off the hot seat.
4 wins or less should mean the plug gets pulled since this would be the multi-year slide that should never be acceptable for a coach after 9 years and zero conference championships.

His contract calls for an extension anytime he reaches 8 wins, thanks to Tommy, in his 2017 contract.

[Bulldog Tom]

7 wins is with this schedule is the minimum acceptable, so I guess that would satisfy me. SMU, North Texas, UTEP, ODU, Charlotte, USM and Rice are my picks for wins. We follow this up with another bowl loss to the Sun Belt to finish 7-6. Skip keeps his job, but the automatic extension does not kick in.

What record gets Skip fired? I would say a normally criminal record with a murder or attempted murder conviction, but since our new AD actually fired a poor performing coach recently maybe it is possible Skip one day gets fired. For that to happen this year I say 2-10, maybe 3-9.

[Bulldog Tom]

Vegas has us at 4.5 over/under. That says it all.

Anything less than 8 wins from 8 year HC with this schedule is not acceptable to me as a fan. I expect 6 or less.

JBE just signed the sports betting law this afternoon, so these bets an now legally take place in Louisiana.