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    Coaching Changes

    Clay Helton out at USC.

    46-24 .657 winning percentage
    1 PAC 12 Championship
    3 PAC 12 South Championships
    2 NYD Bowl Games
    1 Rose Bowl Championship
    1 Top 5 finish
    2 Top 10 finishes
    3 Top 25 finishes

    Some places it is not okay to just compete, you must win. In some places you must win all the time.


    Here is how Skip compares in those categories.

    62-42 .596 winning percentage
    0 CUSA Championships
    3 CUSA West Championships
    0 NYD Bowl Games
    0 Top 5 finish
    0 Top 10 finishes
    0 Top 25 finishes

    Clay Helton was fired today, Skip basically has a lifetime contract.

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    Re: Coaching Changes

    I know this a bit of a comparison between a watermelon (USC) and a lemon (LaTech), but OMG talk about something telling. Holtz is like the magician who pulls a rattlesnake out of the hat instead of a rabbit that ends up biting him in the throat. The guy just loses when it matters the most to win.

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    Re: Coaching Changes

    So...we are to assume USC won't be contacting Skippy?

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    Re: Coaching Changes

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    So...we are to assume USC won't be contacting Skippy?
    USC is looking for a coach who competes

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    Re: Coaching Changes

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    So...we are to assume USC won't be contacting Skippy?
    Maybe if the want to save a whole bunch of money.

    I know it is silly to predict who they will eventually hire in three or so months, but my best guess would be Luke Fickell. Everyone knows about the absolutely wonderful job he has one at Cincinnati, but what most do not know is the AD at USC was the AD at Cincinnati who hired Fickell.

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    Re: Coaching Changes

    Holtz is like the magician who pulls a rattlesnake out of the hat instead of a rabbit that ends up biting him in the throat.
    That sentence structure made me picture a crazed rabbit biting Holtz in the throat.

    Maybe Skip will do that magic act at halftime.

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    Re: Coaching Changes

    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog Tom View Post
    Clay Helton out at USC.

    46-24 .657 winning percentage
    1 PAC 12 Championship
    3 PAC 12 South Championships
    2 NYD Bowl Games
    1 Rose Bowl Championship
    1 Top 5 finish
    2 Top 10 finishes
    3 Top 25 finishes

    Some places it is not okay to just compete, you must win. In some places you must win all the time.


    Here is how Skip compares in those categories.

    62-42 .596 winning percentage
    0 CUSA Championships
    3 CUSA West Championships
    0 NYD Bowl Games
    0 Top 5 finish
    0 Top 10 finishes
    0 Top 25 finishes

    Clay Helton was fired today, Skip basically has a lifetime contract.
    If they are smart, USC will hire former Texas Head Coach Tom Herman. That guy was and is good. Herman is a much better coach than his replacement, the "drunk" former Head coach of USC, Steve Sarkisian. I still can't understand why Texas wanted Sarkisian so badly? Maybe they like losing to Arkansas?

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    Re: Coaching Changes

    Fickell would be a good hire, but the word on him is, as soon as Day leave Ohio State, he would take that job no questions asked. So it could be a short term hire if Day were to leave OSU for the NFL etc, or maybe Day stays at OSU and you have Fickell for a while.

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    Re: Coaching Changes

    So one of Skip's former head coaching positions actually opened up before USC (but didn't merit a thread, because, well, it's just UConn).

    I think they have some thinking to do about FBS football, but what would you guys think about JB3 in that job? He'd probably be nuts to take it but he's from the area, has HC experience (with an Independent team no less!).

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    Re: Coaching Changes

    Coach Ogeron is 40-9 as LSU’s HC
    He has went undefeated and won the national championship 2 years ago.
    He will probably be fired this year.

    You see every school not named Tech isn’t okay with “competing”

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    Re: Coaching Changes

    USC, Bama, and LSU….

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    Re: Coaching Changes

    Quote Originally Posted by revf View Post
    Coach Ogeron is 40-9 as LSU’s HC
    He has went undefeated and won the national championship 2 years ago.
    He will probably be fired this year.

    You see every school not named Tech isn’t okay with “competing”
    And they will pay a huge buyout….again. Anyone know what his buyout will be?

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    Re: Coaching Changes

    Quote Originally Posted by SicemDawgz View Post
    And they will pay a huge buyout….again. Anyone know what his buyout will be?
    With all of the off-field baggage, I would expect a negotiated reduced buyout so in return LSU would drop any investigations that it has authority over. Otherwise it could get very ugly as a "for cause" termination.

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    Re: Coaching Changes

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    If they are smart, USC will hire former Texas Head Coach Tom Herman. That guy was and is good. Herman is a much better coach than his replacement, the "drunk" former Head coach of USC, Steve Sarkisian. I still can't understand why Texas wanted Sarkisian so badly? Maybe they like losing to Arkansas?
    Herman will be back in Houston at the end of this season. Dana Holgorsen is not a head football coach. Holgorsen has proven he will not win in the Big 12. Friendship with Tillman won’t save him this time.

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    Re: Coaching Changes

    Quote Originally Posted by DallasDog View Post
    Fickell would be a good hire, but the word on him is, as soon as Day leave Ohio State, he would take that job no questions asked. So it could be a short term hire if Day were to leave OSU for the NFL etc, or maybe Day stays at OSU and you have Fickell for a while.
    I agree Ohio State is probably Fickell’s dream job. He would love to get another shot to be the Buckeyes head football coach. A couple of problems.

    First, I don’t think Ryan Day is going anywhere soon. I don’t think there is another college job he would leave Ohio state for.

    Second, we do not know Day wants to be an NFL coach. I have seen speculation that the only NFL job he would be interested in is taking over once Bill Belichick retires.

    Third, USC didn’t fire a successful coach to play it safe with the next hire. Sure, they could lose Fickell to the NFL or Ohio State in three or four years, but if in that time they win Pac 12 championships and make the play-off isn’t it worth it?

    Football is not a game for the faint of heart, you must be bold in your decision making, you must take calculated risks. Schools, like us, who always plays it safe get left behind.
    All of that said nobody knows who USC will ultimately pick. So I will stay with my pick of Fickell.

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