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    Re: Bulldogs Fall in Heartbreaker to Mustangs - latechsports.com

    Quote Originally Posted by Rama Jama View Post
    Great assessment. Should be pinned to top of the thread.

    There is an element of fear (usually) within Holtz’s 4th quarter strategy.

    But! In this case, with 2:13 to go, we throw a skinny slant for a 1st down. ‘Gutsy call” as the tv crew stated. 1:45, Marcus Williams fights into the end zone only to have it called back due to (blatant) holding by #68. Assuming we make the PAT, the score would be 41-33, out of reach, we win. We go on to burn clock, make a 47 yard FG. So (anyone) how is this Holtz’ fault?

    What, specifically, would anyone do differently to win that game?
    Even against MSU, we didn't go conservative in the final few series until we had some dropped balls on early downs.
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    We outscored SMU in the 4th quarter.
    Have you considered those Dogs?

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    I don't think anyone is smacking Holtz for the offense this year. I think most of us have been happy with it for the most part. I know I have. Of course this begs the question, when he gets a good QB he isn't bad but when he has to recruit more than a transfer or develop one WTF is wrong/happens???

    Also the defense is the issue, especially the defense he turtles into at the end of games. It costs him way more than it gains him. If we are pressuring the QB and playing aggressive on D, and he makes the right reads and beats us, that is the other team being better/beating us straight up. But playing this prevent or whatever he wants to call it is beating ourselves and that's a big problem. The fact that they moved relatively untouched that far that fast to even be in legitimate Hail Mary range is the problem.

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    Re: Bulldogs Fall in Heartbreaker to Mustangs - latechsports.com

    The defense on the Hail Mary was actually a good call. He rushed 5 with Grubbs coming from the outside to prevent the quarterback from rolling left. Unfortunately their left tackle, tackled Grubbs and the official just let it go figuring it wouldn't matter and then it did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtrammell View Post
    The defense on the Hail Mary was actually a good call. He rushed 5 with Grubbs coming from the outside to prevent the quarterback from rolling left. Unfortunately their left tackle, tackled Grubbs and the official just let it go figuring it wouldn't matter and then it did.
    Again, the freak hail mary was not the issue. The issue was allowing them to get down to the 33 so quickly and easily by playing 15 yards off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Even against MSU, we didn't go conservative in the final few series until we had some dropped balls on early downs.
    You’re right we didn’t, until we got to the 30 yard line with about a minute left. Then we did.

    With a 17 point lead and 12 minutes to go we had 2nd and short, I think it was 4-5 yards to go from about the MSU 12.

    We threw 2 straight low % fades to the left side, both incomplete, and ending up kicking a FG. If we were going to throw in that situation, it needed to be high %, otherwise run twice and kill another minute and a half.

    Holtz has a very poor grasp of the game situation too often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boxerdog View Post
    we outscored smu in the 4th quarter.
    lmao.

    1-2.

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    Re: Bulldogs Fall in Heartbreaker to Mustangs - latechsports.com

    SMU really milking it.

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    I'm going to make the 7-hour drive this weekend to make the UNT game. I'm a season ticket holder and this will be the first game that I could make. Regardless of how much money I throw at this program and the outcome, Skippy will not ruin my weekend! See y'all there...go Dawgs!

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    Concerning the threat title…….. Seems to me losing a heart breaker would mean you were a hopeless underdog. For example against Alabama or Clemson. You lead by 6 with a minute thirty to go and you lose. That is heart breaking. Losing a game you honestly had no business losing is just gut wrenching. I think Sonny was right for 58 minutes we were the better team and SMU was outcoached. I’m not heartbroken about any of it anymore. I’m disgusted

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    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    Concerning the threat title…….. Seems to me losing a heart breaker would mean you were a hopeless underdog. For example against Alabama or Clemson. You lead by 6 with a minute thirty to go and you lose. That is heart breaking. Losing a game you honestly had no business losing is just gut wrenching. I think Sonny was right for 58 minutes we were the better team and SMU was outcoached. I’m not heartbroken about any of it anymore. I’m disgusted
    With that, Sonny was the bigger man and admitted that we out played his team and he was out coached. When has Skippy admitted that for any of our loses?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotsudo View Post
    With that, Sonny was the bigger man and admitted that we out played his team and he was out coached. When has Skippy admitted that for any of our loses?
    You expect too much sir

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rama Jama View Post
    Great assessment. Should be pinned to top of the thread.

    There is an element of fear (usually) within Holtz’s 4th quarter strategy.

    But! In this case, with 2:13 to go, we throw a skinny slant for a 1st down. ‘Gutsy call” as the tv crew stated. 1:45, Marcus Williams fights into the end zone only to have it called back due to (blatant) holding by #68. Assuming we make the PAT, the score would be 41-33, out of reach, we win. We go on to burn clock, make a 47 yard FG. So (anyone) how is this Holtz’ fault?

    What, specifically, would anyone do differently to win that game?
    Williams was actually coached to fall down after he got the first down and before he scored the called-back TD that would have only forced OT at 41-41. If he had fallen down, the play clock would have been set to 25 seconds and Tech could have burned off up to 24 of the 36 seconds off the game clock that SMU had left after the FG. Because the play ended in a score that was called back, the clock didn't restart until the next snap.

    The only way SMU could win was to get the ball back. Scoring a TD up by only 1 does not win the game. And even if Tech had led by 2 or more and scored a TD, just remember the 2017 Southern Miss nightmare for a blown 2-score lead in the last two minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FriscoDawg View Post
    Williams was actually coached to fall down after he got the first down and before he scored the called-back TD that would have only forced OT at 41-41. If he had fallen down, the play clock would have been set to 25 seconds and Tech could have burned off up to 24 of the 36 seconds off the game clock that SMU had left after the FG. Because the play ended in a score that was called back, the clock didn't restart until the next snap.

    The only way SMU could win was to get the ball back. Scoring a TD up by only 1 does not win the game. And even if Tech had led by 2 or more and scored a TD, just remember the 2017 Southern Miss nightmare for a blown 2-score lead in the last two minutes.
    Why are you saying he was coached to do this? Post game our HC said he was told this by the refs, not that he or one of his coaches told the player to do this.

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