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    Re: Has Guice, Holtz and the former AD guided Tech to irrelevance?

    Y'all know that Guice can't turn us into a major media market right? Because that's why we aren't in the AAC.

    Y'all know that Guice can't move us out of Louisiana, right? Because I doubt ESPN wanted 3 Louisiana schools in the Sunbelt.

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    Re: Has Guice, Holtz and the former AD guided Tech to irrelevance?

    You know the buck stops with Guice on crappy deals with Learfield and Aramark. You know the buck stops with Guice in crappy hires that set us back decades. You know Guice is the #1 cheerleader for a conference commissioner who looks as inept in her position as our people do in theirs.

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    Re: Has Guice, Holtz and the former AD guided Tech to irrelevance?

    Quote Originally Posted by thewyldman View Post
    Y'all know that Guice can't turn us into a major media market right? Because that's why we aren't in the AAC.

    Y'all know that Guice can't move us out of Louisiana, right? Because I doubt ESPN wanted 3 Louisiana schools in the Sunbelt.
    You know excuse making and settling for apathy helps nothing.
    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    You know the buck stops with Guice on crappy deals with Learfield and Aramark. You know the buck stops with Guice in crappy hires that set us back decades. You know Guice is the #1 cheerleader for a conference commissioner who looks as inept in her position as our people do in theirs.
    Exactly!

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    Re: Has Guice, Holtz and the former AD guided Tech to irrelevance?

    Weird how weíve been set back for a decade, despite enjoying one of more successful periods of Tech athletics. Besides itís almost like thereís more to running a university than athletics...

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    Re: Has Guice, Holtz and the former AD guided Tech to irrelevance?

    Quote Originally Posted by thewyldman View Post
    Weird how weíve been set back for a decade, despite enjoying one of more successful periods of Tech athletics. Besides itís almost like thereís more to running a university than athletics...
    Dr Guice, why donít we go to FCS if we arenít going to try and excel in FBS?

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    Re: Has Guice, Holtz and the former AD guided Tech to irrelevance?

    Quote Originally Posted by thewyldman View Post
    Weird how we’ve been set back for a decade, despite enjoying one of more successful periods of Tech athletics. Besides it’s almost like there’s more to running a university than athletics...
    Yes, and enrollment has fallen, advertising is nonexistent, and a few of our once proud programs are shells of their former selves.

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    Re: Has Guice, Holtz and the former AD guided Tech to irrelevance?

    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    You know the buck stops with Guice on crappy deals with Learfield and Aramark. You know the buck stops with Guice in crappy hires that set us back decades. You know Guice is the #1 cheerleader for a conference commissioner who looks as inept in her position as our people do in theirs.
    What are the alternatives? Learfield and Aramark feel like as much of an option as Suddenlink.

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    Re: Has Guice, Holtz and the former AD guided Tech to irrelevance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tech52 View Post
    What are the alternatives? Learfield and Aramark feel like as much of an option as Suddenlink.
    In house management. We are not so large that we can't manage things ourselves. Thanks to these brilliant management groups we now have C-USA ultralight with fewer fans to enjoy it.
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    Re: Has Guice, Holtz and the former AD guided Tech to irrelevance?

    Quote Originally Posted by thewyldman View Post
    Weird how we’ve been set back for a decade, despite enjoying one of more successful periods of Tech athletics. Besides it’s almost like there’s more to running a university than athletics...
    So please explain why Tech has declined in many areas? Enrollment is down, academics are down (no ranked programs), athletics are down.. Where has Tech improved in the last 10-15 years? We do have nice new facilities on campus, but it doesn't reflect in student enrollment. Athletic programs are the marketing arm of the university. 25-50% of the fans that fill P5 stadiums never attended the university that they watch football at. Tech at this point has driven many alumni away that don't want to attend athletic events. Getting people who never attended Tech interested in Tech is how you get additional $$$$ flowing to the university.

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    Re: Has Guice, Holtz and the former AD guided Tech to irrelevance?

    Can you please explain how academics has gone down? I was not aware of that.

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    Re: Has Guice, Holtz and the former AD guided Tech to irrelevance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bone_afide_Dawg View Post
    Yes! After CUSAís announcement of being nothing much more than an elevated FCS conference, Guice should resign. He doesnít have the vision for Tech to be all it can be. Besides that he supports bad hires and terrible contracts. Iím really wondering what executive, business decision making skills he has.
    Good post. The question is, are any of these BB&Ber's going to pay attention to it?

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    Re: Has Guice, Holtz and the former AD guided Tech to irrelevance?

    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    You know the buck stops with Guice on crappy deals with Learfield and Aramark. You know the buck stops with Guice in crappy hires that set us back decades. You know Guice is the #1 cheerleader for a conference commissioner who looks as inept in her position as our people do in theirs.
    ....and until recently, Guice was the President of the CUSA Council of Presidents (or whatever it's called). He was the guy IN CHARGE!

    What we don't see from Guice is STRONG LEADERSHIP. Again, he's a friendly guy and a nice guy. But he's not a guy that makes you feel comfortable that an adult is in charge.

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    Re: Has Guice, Holtz and the former AD guided Tech to irrelevance?

    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    Yes, and enrollment has fallen, advertising is nonexistent, and a few of our once proud programs are shells of their former selves.
    GREAT points.

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    Re: Has Guice, Holtz and the former AD guided Tech to irrelevance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tech52 View Post
    What are the alternatives? Learfield and Aramark feel like as much of an option as Suddenlink.
    Hell, I can tell you how much water to buy on opening night. (Answer: More than in the past. )

    We're not talking brain surgery here T52.

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    Re: Has Guice, Holtz and the former AD guided Tech to irrelevance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bone_afide_Dawg View Post
    Yes! After CUSA’s announcement of being nothing much more than an elevated FCS conference, Guice should resign. He doesn’t have the vision for Tech to be all it can be. Besides that he supports bad hires and terrible contracts. I’m really wondering what executive, business decision making skills he has.
    His experience is exclusively in academia and only at Louisiana Tech.
    http://www2.latech.edu/~guice/Guice/...xperience.html

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    Good post. The question is, are any of these BB&Ber's going to pay attention to it?
    Like with Holtz, most who questioned Guice's abilities were shouted down.

    And now look at where we are.

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